Imperial Twins?

[DydimusTempus]

If it may, I'm not able to provide reference but an understanding of Earth history. The Idea of Twins is generaly good. Even the Clones would not truly be an otruce concept. My hypothetical idea goes along the line that they are half brother and sister. If the Imperium houses are anything like earth noble, royal and imperial houses then it could be conceivable that Margaret I and Paulo I where in fact half Siblings.

Margaret being the first and ligitamate heir to the Irridium Throne, whether or not born first.

Paulo, ascended the Throne later, quite posiibly was an illigitamate son, born possibly a bastard child threw a true love of his father or a fling such as with a handmaden or some other noble wife.

Aurgument could well say that he would have ligitament claim to succession, though with a great deal of opposition. Espeacially for his bastard status.

Another line one may conclude is that they are cousins or even that Paulo was an adopted son of noble birth with Imperial blood.

Thankyou for possing this Question. It provided a lead to a campaign setting I've been thinking about.

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[MistWolf]

There are several possibilities-

1) The simplest is that, yes, they are fraternal twins

2) The rulers of the Imperium are rich and powerful. Image is very important and pregnacy is very hard on the body of a female, and to protect the children from assassination in the womb- they are carried by surrogate mothers

3) Magaret & Paulo are two seperate persons in the same body. Perhaps Cleon the Mad is proof insanity runs in the Imperial line. To hide evidence of a split personality, the official histories reflect the existence of both

4) One was adopted

5) Both were actually born in the same year, but not related at all. One asserted his/her right to acension to the throne only to be deposed by the other. Who knows which was the true heir by blood? Perhaps one wasn't of the blood but given the blessing of heir apparent as they were better qualified for the job

6)Neither were related to the Imperiuos Parentage. Perhaps the Imperious Parents could nopt produce offspring and both Margaret and Paulo were adopted to secure the throne

7) Both are clones- Margaret of her mother and Paulo of his father- or the other way around

8) They are actually born years apart, but due to some warp in the space/time continuum they were born in the same year according to the Imperious calender. Maybe that's how the Imperious Couple took vacations- stepped into a warp in time to have months to themselves while only a day or two passed in the Imperium

9) Perhaps it was politically expedient the Emperor had a wife and a consort- like Paul Mu'ad Dib in Dune

 

[Ron]

10) One was a bastard son or daughter latter recognized as legitimate.

 

[Peter Newman]

What if the calender was changed? Suppose the Empress was "29" when her first child was born, according to her own statements and was still "29" when her second child was born five years later. Well who are you going to believe, some silly piece of paper or the Empress?

Obvious if she was the same age when they were both born, they must have been born in the same year. Are _you_ going to call the Empress a liar? Is your will up to date? Answer the second question first please.

 

[Moose]

IMTU they are fraternal twins. 5 minutes delays Paulo's ascent to the throne by 50 years (IIRC), during which he is able to quietly start the "Rimwatch" programme to look for excessively separatist tendencies among the Solomani, and ultimately leads to a "Solomani Integration Campaign" (before the point at which the Solomani COnfederation is establised by canon) and development of an Imperial Rim under the Office of the Rimward Development Agency (ORDA).

 

[BlackBat242]

To re-thaw this cryo-frozen thread (since I just joined the forum and so have not had the chance to participate earlier)...

1. This is along the lines of the Pharoah/gender change theory: Pope Joan... er... John. Was there a religious, legal, or cultural requirement that the subject of a gender change be formally considered a seperate being from the previous gender? If so, then the pre-change person would no longer exist... and would then be considered as deceased.

The "new" person could not be considered to have just been born, however, as that would require him/her to live as a "minor" for several years before becoming once again an "adult". This would require that his/her birthdate be designated as the same as the previous gender's was.


2. Perhaps the Empress was fertile, but had a medical condition which made carrying a fetus to term (or near-term) medically dangerous?

In that situation, in-vitro fertilization followed by implantation in a surrogate, or transplantation in a surrogate of the naturally-conceived early-term fetus (if natural impregnation is legally/culturally/religiously required) is quite possible... and would naturally lead to multiple pregnancies (heir & spare, remember?)... which might be carried out within a 6-month or shorter period... if circumstances require it so.

 

[Liam Devlin]

Originally posted by BlackBat242:
To re-thaw this cryo-frozen thread (since I just joined the forum and so have not had the chance to participate earlier)...

1. This is along the lines of the Pharoah/gender change theory: Pope Joan... er... John. Was there a religious, legal, or cultural requirement that the subject of a gender change be formally considered a seperate being from the previous gender? If so, then the pre-change person would no longer exist... and would then be considered as deceased.

The "new" person could not be considered to have just been born, however, as that would require him/her to live as a "minor" for several years before becoming once again an "adult". This would require that his/her birthdate be designated as the same as the previous gender's was.

Gadzooks!

Blackbat242 that is absolutely a great interpretation of the gender-option change!! Having not been born, they must live out their minority time before attaining 'Adult-status' once again..