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Sacnoth Ríkisstjórn-Vopn Verksmiðju, Ohf. ('Guns')

They're very nice, are those your renderings?

I saw a design on deviant art ... by a guy from the Netherlands .... after watching his videos on you tube I copied his technique... and reproduced his design using his stuff as a template about 15-20% is my addition. Took about 3 hours.
 
just to clarify, is that SMG using the same 7mm ETC rounds as the carbine and rifle? if not, you might want to make that clear, as at the moment it looks like all three share a common calibre (which raises the question of why you need both a carbine and a SMG)
 
just to clarify, is that SMG using the same 7mm ETC rounds as the carbine and rifle? if not, you might want to make that clear, as at the moment it looks like all three share a common calibre (which raises the question of why you need both a carbine and a SMG)

7mm ETC is the common caliber of all weapons... the SMG is perfect for CQB, i.e. perfect for ship/building clearing and .. For accuracy (Barrel Length) is the reason for the carbine. Also the carbine can use a RAM grenade... which is the low tech solution Battledress, bunkers, built up fighting positions... loud neighbors.

Its the XM8 family Swordie Style.... still working on the SAW type weapon of this weapons family.
 
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They're very nice, are those your renderings?

Here is the frame I rebuilt (painstakingly copied bit by bit) after working very hard on, learned so much in this attempt about color, shading and such.
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I love the images (especially the layout on the cards that makes it a useful handout).

I suspect that a silencer will require sub-sonic ammo to be of any benefit and standard 7mm ammo at TL 11 is probably high velocity. So the silencer will require special (low damage) ammo to be effective ... [or - handwave - they worked out another solution for sonic booms by TL 11] ;)
 
I love the images (especially the layout on the cards that makes it a useful handout).

I suspect that a silencer will require sub-sonic ammo to be of any benefit and standard 7mm ammo at TL 11 is probably high velocity. So the silencer will require special (low damage) ammo to be effective ... [or - handwave - they worked out another solution for sonic booms by TL 11] ;)

I agree with you absolutely, however as we found out in Bosnia MP5SD6 Subsonic rounds sometimes cannot penetrate winter clothing at certain ranges.

I don't think even at Tech 11 they can bend the laws acoustics.

Here is the rough LMG weapon (team/squad level)
 
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I agree with you absolutely, however as we found out in Bosnia MP5SD6 Subsonic rounds sometimes cannot penetrate winter clothing at certain ranges.

I don't think even at Tech 11 they can bend the laws acoustics.

Here is the rough LMG weapon (team/squad level)
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I'm not an expert in weapons (to say the least), but it's not too short for a LMG?

When compared with the hand hold (and so with the expected size of the hand). it only mesures (from the magazine, and so I guess the firing mechanism, to the end of the barrel) only about 5-6 hands (so about 60-75 cm).
 
I'm not an expert in weapons (to say the least), but it's not too short for a LMG?

When compared with the hand hold (and so with the expected size of the hand). it only mesures (from the magazine, and so I guess the firing mechanism, to the end of the barrel) only about 5-6 hands (so about 60-75 cm).

Yeah it would help If I kept the measurements static, I just did a side by side comparison :oo: ..anyway that is the concept for the LMG. It takes hours for me to do the details.. and I have to move on for the day ...

However being a RL paratrooper I am going to share that LMG's can be small .... short barreled SAW and I will leave you with that.
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I suspect that a silencer will require sub-sonic ammo to be of any benefit and standard 7mm ammo at TL 11 is probably high velocity. So the silencer will require special (low damage) ammo to be effective ... [or - handwave - they worked out another solution for sonic booms by TL 11] ;)

I agree with you absolutely, however as we found out in Bosnia MP5SD6 Subsonic rounds sometimes cannot penetrate winter clothing at certain ranges.
I don't think even at Tech 11 they can bend the laws acoustics.

Dang, something warped in me just loves a good challenge ...

First, let's make the SMG just a little more different than the carbine. I suggest chopping off the butt stock and cap it just behind the ammo feed ... shoot it like a MAC-10 or Uzi (without the stock).

I think that you are correct about supersonic ammo being needed for reliable penetration. I remember reading about some guy who developed an airfoil shape that had two strange properties:
1. It swallowed its own sonic boom.
2. It generated ZERO lift.
These features combined make it nothing more than an aeronautical curiosity ... a wing that creates no sonic boom is useful, unless it also generates no lift.

But what about a 7mm TL 11 bullet for a silencer?
The basic shape of the bullet is a hollow cylinder with parallel outer walls and airfoil shaped inner walls. The sonic shock wave is reflected between the inner walls and trapped inside the cylinder which prevents formation. [... SEARCH ... FOUND IT ... Busemann's Biplane]
 
Dang, something warped in me just loves a good challenge ...

First, let's make the SMG just a little more different than the carbine. I suggest chopping off the butt stock and cap it just behind the ammo feed ... shoot it like a MAC-10 or Uzi (without the stock).

I think that you are correct about supersonic ammo being needed for reliable penetration. I remember reading about some guy who developed an airfoil shape that had two strange properties:
1. It swallowed its own sonic boom.
2. It generated ZERO lift.
These features combined make it nothing more than an aeronautical curiosity ... a wing that creates no sonic boom is useful, unless it also generates no lift.

But what about a 7mm TL 11 bullet for a silencer?
The basic shape of the bullet is a hollow cylinder with parallel outer walls and airfoil shaped inner walls. The sonic shock wave is reflected between the inner walls and trapped inside the cylinder which prevents formation. [... SEARCH ... FOUND IT ... Busemann's Biplane]

7mm (rifle round) you are going to need the buttstock.. or there will be a wide arc... with that 'room broom'. No gangsta shooting my creation.

On no I can see it now... Pimped out ride S- Scout, " da crew" sporting head rags, big shades, bling bling sunbursts on thick chains, boxers hanging out of utility pants, and "scout stepping" off the ship... I need to go eat ... and forget I just thought of all that.
 
7mm (rifle round) you are going to need the buttstock.. or there will be a wide arc... with that 'room broom'. No gangsta shooting my creation.
Then I am coming in with a cheap TL 9 knock-off SMG that fires 7mm Pistol Ammo (like a SMG should) to steal market share for the shipboard/urban market right out from under you. :devil:
 
Then I am coming in with a cheap TL 9 knock-off SMG that fires 7mm Pistol Ammo (like a SMG should) to steal market share for the shipboard/urban market right out from under you. :devil:

Sounds like a grand competition. Anyway Booya! Go Swords
 
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I'm not an expert in weapons (to say the least), but it's not too short for a LMG?

When compared with the hand hold (and so with the expected size of the hand). it only mesures (from the magazine, and so I guess the firing mechanism, to the end of the barrel) only about 5-6 hands (so about 60-75 cm).

Fixed the scale issue. Go to the original post.
 
New Plasma RAM Grenades ( Built to CT "Book 10")

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I forgot to share I used the fan created Book 10 (Ordinance and Armory) to Stat out these weapons. I have seen a few errors that work would need to be corrected, but it is a great matrix.
The Plasma Anti-Armor RAM Grenade is the 'got battledress' answer... Traveller Murphy Law " there is always a low tech antidote for high tech invincibility."
 
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