Originally posted by Hal:
As for the comment made by Hans - We have an early example of where GDW made an error between cannon material and later canon material.
I'm not disputing the canonical facts. I'm pointing out that they are inconsistent. Regina
can't be TL 10 and build jump-4 ships at the same time. One or the other of the two facts (or both
)
must be wrong.
THE SPINWARD MARCHES supplement came out 1979, SCOUTS came out in 1983. The Kinunir came out in 1979. Both SCOUTS & THE SPINWARD MARCHES supplement state Regina is TL 10. The Kinunir class ships aren't listed as TL 15 until we talk about Supplement 9 FIGHTING SHIPS - copyright 1981. By 1985, THE SPINWARD MARCHES CAMPAIGN upgrades Regina to TL 12. All things considered? I'd just go with the original data for Regina in that it is TL 10 and go from there.
Your privilege, of course.
I am of course curious as to how the Kirunir class ship could be rated at TL 15 regardless of whether Regina is listed as TL 10 or TL 12. One would almost have to think that the starports themselves are all built to TL 15 standards.
That's just it. The
Kinunir doesn't
have to be TL 15, but it does have to be minimum TL 13. You don't really ruin any of the background by declaring the TL 15 information to be a mistake, but you do ruin quite a lot by giving the
Kinunir a TL lower than 13.
One aspect of what makes the best fix is the question "What causes the least damage?" Can you think of any canonical information about Regina (other than the UWP itself) where it makes a difference if Regina is TL 10 or TL 12 in 1105?
Now, according to
World Builder's Handbook it is possible, even common, for a world to have a a higher TL than its High Common TL (which is what the TL digit in the UWP shows) in selected fields, but it is not common (I'm tempted to say impossible, but I don't have WBH with me, so I won't go out on a limb) for a world to have a TL
three higher than its High Common TL. Thus it is (IMO)
much more plausible for Regina to have a High Common TL of 12 and a space TL of 13 than it is for Regina to have a High Common TL of 10 and a space TL of 13.
As a secondary consideration, I think that a TL jump of two levels in four years is pretty strange. Not impossible (it is, after all, four war years), but still, it's something to be taken into account.
As another secondary consideration, I think that as the subsector capital of an old established starcluster with a rival high-population world with TL 13, Regina would work better with a TL of 12 than a TL of 10. YMM, of course, V.
You know - someone should go through all the canon material with a fine tooth comb (the same set of rules as utilized by today's writers for Traveller material) and see what violates canon of any work preceeding them and FIXED. I know - that will never happen.
Some of us are doing the best we can

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Hans