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Serenity - The Movie

Originally posted by Uncle Bob:
He still goofed putting the rifle in the spacesuit, so he now ranks with "Lost in Space", but with better characters.
Hmmm ... I dunno. I've read people theorising that a normal gun works in a vaccuum, but I've never heard of actual tests done in space at close to zero kelvin.

Also Jayne isn't the brightest brick in the heap either, so perhaps he's just playing it safe because he had a friend who tried shooting his rifle in space and it froze on him. Of course I haven't seen that episode, so I could be misinterpreting it.
 
Originally posted by SanDragon:
I got mine at Barnes & Noble.

And it shows 8 stars and has the planetary orbit around them, and some of the worlds are shown as well.
I really think you are misinterpreting what the image shows. It is not 8 stars -- it is one star with planets around it, with faint lines for their orbits, and the smaller moons of those planets, also with very faint lines for their orbits.

And I got my copy from Amazon.com: Serenity Visual Companion
 
"So, why spend decades building from scratch if you have FTL capability? Why not look around further?"

Depends how your drive works. Maybe it's only slightly FTL, or it's unreliable, or it only works along hard-to-find wormholes, or it needs fuel that you haven't got, or...

But, you know what? The film is so abso-fraggin'-lutely amazing that I don't care!
 
Originally posted by Paraquat Johnson:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by SanDragon:
I got mine at Barnes & Noble.

And it shows 8 stars and has the planetary orbit around them, and some of the worlds are shown as well.
I really think you are misinterpreting what the image shows. It is not 8 stars -- it is one star with planets around it, with faint lines for their orbits, and the smaller moons of those planets, also with very faint lines for their orbits.

And I got my copy from Amazon.com: Serenity Visual Companion
</font>[/QUOTE]Then some planets have peculiar glows about them...
 
Over at SciFi.com someone raised an interesting comparison. The terraforming and conformity inducing drugs are akin to the European arrival in the Americans whereby cultural and physical genocide is the outcome of the European settlers of the native people. This is certainly a large enough story arc, if Wheldon wants to follow it...silly audience was simply distracted by all the White people on screen...as it kinda fits the series and one group we never saw in the series was the Native American...

Failing that there are several plot suggestions that I outlined before...
 
Originally posted by kafka47:
one group we never saw in the series was the Native American.
During the series, I always thought the Reavers represented the Indians of the Old West, or at least the Indians as portrayed in many Westerns -- the bogeyman.

Kinda works for the movie, too, as the Native Americans were changed by the Europeans much as the Reavers were changed by the Alliance. But the Reavers weren't a native inhabitant of the star system.
 
I actually managed to pick up the rpg in Manchester!!

Doesn't really help though. There's a full page for both those graphics that appear in the OVC. It looks like the whitish planet on the left is Haven, and the one in the top right is Santo, apparently (this is by comparing the cloud patterns between the different graphics).

The graphic showing the multiple systems is the nav board on Serenity locked on to Miranda, so who knows how its meant to be laid out. However, if you look carefully all the obvious gas giants have a dark side, while all the star-like objects are bright all round, and with no clouds etc.

The RPG is assuming a central star with several companion stars, all with several planets. The core worlds orbit the central star, the border moons and the rim planets the outer stars. This is the 'Verse, estimated to be 74AU across, based on comms time lag of 10 hours, tho I read on some board that the guy liaising between the rpg and film thought that was probably too small.
This is canon for the rpg, Margaret Weiss has said so, but it is ambiguous if it is so for the movie/tv. JW has said it is all in one system, but this could be taken as refering to stars in orbit around the primary as well as just a single star. So who knows? And does it really matter?

There is no FTL. Hard Burn (rpg ref) is applying the G drive to reduce mass and turning on the pulse drive (photonic reaction), but uses more fuel.

btw, the rpg is quite nifty, even if there's some annoying errata and fuzziness here and there.
 
Even if JW hasn't ever played (or reffed) Traveller, I sincerely hope he's reading these forums. There's enough material here for several good sequels.... :D
 
I saw the film last weekend and having had a few days to reflect upon it, I have to say that I very much enjoyed it, but I didn't feel it was as good as the series - which I love to bits.
I can't elaborate without giving away spoilers, so I will say vaguely that the humour-drama ratio wasn't as balanced as the series (it needed more humour). It had plotholes that would never have been forgiven in a Star Trek or Star Wars movie and the epic-scale plot felt a little simplistic and out of character with the series.
Also, couldn't they just've flown around the reavers? And there's something else that hasn't sat well with me since the series' pilot. How in the 'verse, do totally feral, psychotic cannibals even operate a starship let alone maintain one?

Crow
 
I thought there was plenty of humour, especially considering how grim the story got at times.

As for the Reavers, they're crazy but they're not stupid.

Oh, and I hope everyone spotted the Forbidden Planet reference?
 
Originally posted by Piper:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:
Oh, and I hope everyone spotted the Forbidden Planet reference?
:confused:
I sure missed it.
May I have a hint?
</font>[/QUOTE]Name of the Reaver planet?

Name of the probe on it?
 
Actually I thought there were far less plot holes than your average movie with a Star in the title.

But the movie makes me mourn the TV show. It just doesn't have room to breath on the big screen. It seems the movie was season 2 compressed into 2 hours, and I would have much preferred to see it teased out over 20+hours. The gradual emergence of Rivers combat prowess, a new villain dogging their tales (I reckon the blue hand gang were the season 1 villains, and the Operative would slowly show his face season 2).

Especially as JW layered his big story arc so carefully over the 14 eps we have, it seems a shame to blow it all in 2 hours.

I already loathed Fox for its corporatism and politics; now I have a really good reason to despise Rupert Murdoch and his cronies.
 
I've seen it and liked it. It seems like Joss Wheedon may have planned for several possible sequels (aaaa! They killed Wash, they killed Wash!), but has it wrapped up so that this one can stand on its own.
 
On Reavers-we've only seen the first wave, obviously beserkers-could there be a caste or different stages of their transformation?-On another forum, one person took 40k orcs and Chaos bits and painted them up as human reavers.
Hannibal Lector could be a ship captain of Reavers.
 
The idea of Anthony Hopkins on a gourmet hunt for the Serenity crew backed up by a reaver crew, The RPG possibilities, Ooooh.
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I wonder if J.W. could get Hopkins to do it. That could be an exciting sequel.
 
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