TL changes to travellermap for T5
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Which is congruent with CT sources...
spoilers AotI
Agents otI.
Sure. A hostile alien (not 3I) race.
This is different than wiping out a world for achieving a higher TL than Capital. In all cases there was hostility with potential massive loss of life.
Agents otI.
Sure. A hostile alien (not 3I) race.
This is different than wiping out a world for achieving a higher TL than Capital. In all cases there was hostility with potential massive loss of life.
Ackehece
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yep kinunir was Tl15 and had prototype AI stage already
mike wightman
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And yet the computer network on a TL9 world develops rogue AI status - don't you find that odd?
mike wightman
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Not race - robots. Artificial beings TL17+
Higher than the Imperium at the time of encounter.
They could replicate themselves and build robot cities - that's higher than Capital at the time.
mike wightman
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I'm sorry - I am derailing your thread totally with this.
I will shut up, or is it worth asking for a thread split?
I will shut up, or is it worth asking for a thread split?
I think the subtopic belongs on the Agents of the Imperium thread since i did not intend this a spoiler thread.
I'd like to continue discussing 1105/1116 TLG pros/cons and depot TL pros/cons.
You've added a valued opinion to that discussion.
mike wightman
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My view on depots is the same as for worlds with IN bases - the base is TL15 regardless of world TL.
As to TLG worlds in general - in the SM they went out of their way to make sure that Darrian wasn't really a TLG world despite having the UPP of one.
Odd worlds like Vincennes no problem, even Sabmiqys (thanks to its backstory); but making a core sector chock full of TLG worlds, several of which are high population unbalances the setting IMHO.
The TL increase for the Regency worlds in TNE makes some sense - use Imperial resources to reverse engineer every bit of Darrian technology they can.
As to TLG worlds in general - in the SM they went out of their way to make sure that Darrian wasn't really a TLG world despite having the UPP of one.
Odd worlds like Vincennes no problem, even Sabmiqys (thanks to its backstory); but making a core sector chock full of TLG worlds, several of which are high population unbalances the setting IMHO.
The TL increase for the Regency worlds in TNE makes some sense - use Imperial resources to reverse engineer every bit of Darrian technology they can.
Ackehece
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Weirdly enough the way the tech level rules are written all planets within the Imperium would be TL F within 2 generations if strictly applied and allowed by their respective governments.
I suspect that this suppression is the argument that we must make that all worlds in contact are not at the same tech level.
1 Governments that actively hold back tech level:
The biggest reasons to... don't want filth peasants getting uppitty with fusion cannon.
- self-perpetuating oligarchy
- feudal technocracy <--- self evident
- captive government / colony
- non charismatic dictatorship
- religious dictatorship
- totalitarian oligarchy
2 Government types that probably would hold back technology level:
Keep them in debt or under the thumb for the first two
The last - constant war wears on economies (it also sometimes increases R&D so it is a wash
- company/corporation
- charismatic dictatorship <--- likely to fall to category 1
- religious autocracy <--- likely to fall to category 1
- balkanization
3 Least likely to suppress but still might have reason to....
They literally don't care or the people are pushing for it...
- no government structuce
- participating democracy
- civil service bureaucracy
- impersonal bureaucracy