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Type T verse Imperial Corvette

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So I'm looking at the T5 deckplans at FFE, and am noticing an "Imperial corvette". Is this just the Type-T given a different name, or is it a new class of 400 ton patrol type cruiser?
 
I got the new deckplans pack which included the new type T - it looks very similar to the old type T. Not got T5 so can't quote anything on the internal specs

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richard
 
I think it probably has to do with the way a ships mission and hence its name are defined in ACS the Adventure Class Ships design system in T5.
 
So I'm looking at the T5 deckplans at FFE, and am noticing an "Imperial corvette". Is this just the Type-T given a different name, or is it a new class of 400 ton patrol type cruiser?

It looks like a type T to me and Corvette was the French for Sloop, so I'd say it's a type T, but it doesn't actually give a size. (I read PC as Patrol Corvette rather than Patrol Cruiser anyway).

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David
 
If you're talking about the Lurushaar Kilaalum Class Corvette E-EA53, then it is a 500 dton craft with Manuever 5 and jump 3. This makes it somewhat different than a standard Type T patrol cruiser from days of old.

Also note, that the Corvette's mission is that of being a naval courier.
 
Page 358 of the BBB lists a Corvette as E-EA53 and has a picture that conforms with the classic Type-T.

Page 655 of the BBB lists the Imperial Corvette as E-DA42 and has a picture which conforms to the classic Type-T.

The sample deckplan pdf on the FEE website is the outline of a Type-T and is tagged as 400tons with the legend Corvette INS Daring E-DA43



So we are dealing with three different ships all of which are coded as E = Corvette

The p358 BBB version is 500tons Airframe Maneuver5 Jump3

The p655 BBB version is 400tons Airframe Maneuver4 Jump2

The deckplan version is 400tons Airframe Maneuver4 Jump3

I can't lay my hands on the CT stats for the Type-T. which one most closely satisfies the specifications?


[EDIT] Also note that in T5 ACS the Corvette's mission has two definitions 1). As a minor offensive combat unit for a navy and 2). as an information supply auxiliary for a navy per the Starship Mission table p330. Elsewhere in the book the Corvettes mission is said to be equivalent to the Scout/Courier in naval use.
 
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Page 358 of the BBB lists a Corvette as E-EA53 and has a picture that conforms with the classic Type-T.

Page 655 of the BBB lists the Imperial Corvette as E-DA42 and has a picture which conforms to the classic Type-T.

The sample deckplan pdf on the FEE website is the outline of a Type-T and is tagged as 400tons with the legend Corvette INS Daring E-DA43

Be aware that the text on p.655 is an official errata: it should be E-EA53

So we are dealing with three different ships all of which are coded as E = Corvette

The p358 BBB version is 500tons Airframe Maneuver5 Jump3
The p655 BBB version is 400tons Airframe Maneuver4 Jump2
The deckplan version is 400tons Airframe Maneuver4 Jump3

So p.655 should be 500tons Airframe Maneuver5 Jump3.

So there are actually only two versions we are dealing with:
The p358/p.655 BBB version: 500tons Airframe Maneuver5 Jump3

The Deckplan version: 400tons Airframe Maneuver4 Jump3
I can't lay my hands on the CT stats for the Type-T. which one most closely satisfies the specifications?

CT was 400tons Airframe Maneuver4 Jump3 ("Patrol Cruiser"/"Patrol Ship")
 
So it's not an uprated type-T, but a whole new class based on the type-T. Interesting.


But also note that in T5 both the deckplan version (Daring Class - 400ton) and the BBB version (No Class Name - 500ton) are both called a "Corvette".

Descriptions of 500ton variant in T5 Core Book:

500 ton, p. 358:
Corvette (E-EA53)
Built on a 500-ton TL-13 winged airframe, the Corvette is the Navy’s equivalent of the Scout/Courier, only bigger, faster, and better armed. It mounts drives capable of jump-3 and 5G, with fuel tankage to support both jump and three months of operations. It has fuel scoops to for gas giant skimming. Adjacent to the bridge is a Model/3 computer and an extensive sensor suite. There are five hardpoints filled with an array of powerful weapons.

500 ton, p. 655:
Imperial Navy Corvette (E-EA53) shown with typical accompanying fighters. IN ships aid stranded travellers (show your TAS Card) if their mission is not compromised.

We do not have a class name for the 500 ton variant, but the 400ton CT/MT ship was the Lurushaar Kilaalum Class Patrol Cruiser, and the T5 400ton ship is the Daring Class Corvette (and both have identical displacement and performance characteristics).

At a guess, I would say that the term "Patrol Cruiser" is more of a common slang used by people to refer to what is more properly referred to in naval circles as a corvette. Any differences are probably in the specific fittings for the mission profile.
 
But also note that in T5 both the deckplan version (Daring Class - 400ton) and the BBB version (No Class Name - 500ton) are both called a "Corvette".
There must be hundreds or even thousands of different ship classes in Charted Space that are called corvettes.

We do not have a class name for the 500 ton variant, but the 400ton CT/MT ship was the Lurushaar Kilaalum Class Patrol Cruiser, and the T5 400ton ship is the Daring Class Corvette (and both have identical displacement and performance characteristics).
AFAIK it has never been stated explicitly, but it is my surmise that ships of the same class are almost identical (with no greater difference than a minor refit would cover). Most specifically they would have the same hull shape and overall deck plans (as far as fixed bulkheads are concerned; internal partitioning can vary). Ships of different classes would be the same type if they conformed to some specific broad stats, such as hull size and configuration (but not specific shape), jump and maneuver performance, etc..

So a difference in hull size is more than just a variation in a class, it's a whole different ship type.

In my opinion.


Hans
 
The Type T is basically what I would use as the standard Imperial Corvette - I even prefer it to the Gazelle. I always figured that the T was what was used for standard patrols and standard anti-piracy (the Broadsword and Chrysanthemum being what you use for heavier stuff).

Though I suspect (now that I think about it) that a corvette, in Traveller naval terms, could be as small as 200 tons and big as 800 tons - though 800 tons would be moving into frigate range, at least IMTU.
 
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