What Happened in 619?
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Emperors of the Flag. The first use of Succession by Right of Assassination. And it started in 609.
Yes, the Emperors of the Flag began with Olav in 606. First invocation of the Right of Assasination was in 609. 619 was an exceptionally busy year (although the years of the Barracks Emperors (613-615) may have been even busier). First Emdiri, who had proclaimed herself empress by supposed Right of Assassination without support of the Moot in 618, was murdered in 619 by someone not mentioned in the available text. The Catharine was proclaimed empress by the Moot and murdered by person or persons not mentioned. Then Ramon II was proclaimed emperor by the Moot and killed in battle against Jaqueline, who was then proclaimed empress by the Moot and subsequently killed in battle against Usuti, who was then proclaimed emperor by the Moot. He lasted out the year and wasn't killed until 620.
(And, yes, that makes five emperors in 619, not four; four who died during that year plus one who didn't die until the next year. Somebody got his cardinal and ordinal numbers mixed up.)
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When named by the Moot as the next person to die emperor, Usti was overheard to say "What? Nooo...." as he boarded the fastest battlecruiser available which soon jumped for parts unknown.
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Don't worry, Spinward.
In fact the first instance of the "Right by Assassination" was in IY 245 to deal with Cleon the Mad.
(Tsk, tsk, Hans and such a simple error you made too. Are you feeling okay? Not like you pooch such a basic OTU fact. :devil
In fact the first instance of the "Right by Assassination" was in IY 245 to deal with Cleon the Mad.
(Tsk, tsk, Hans and such a simple error you made too. Are you feeling okay? Not like you pooch such a basic OTU fact. :devil
That's a matter of interpretation. Porfiria assassinated Cleon the Mad and was subsequently elected empress by the Moot. Those two facts are not disputed, but their linkage is. The library data does not mention any Right of Assasination involved there, but rather that Porfiria was the oldest issue of Martin II. In other words, arguably the person with the best legitimate claim to the throne. The first emperor to claim the throne by right of assasination (and, perhaps not entirely incidentally, without support of the Moot) was Constantus in 609. He did refer to Porfiria in his claim (I think; can't locate a quote to that effect off hand), but usurpers are known for grabbing at any scrap of legitimacy they can contrive. After Constantus, the Right of Assasination was invoked by more usurpers. But Porfiria does not seem to have done so.
EDIT: Porfiria was the oldest issue of Martin II's grandnephew, not of Martin II.
Sorry to disappoint you.(Tsk, tsk, Hans and such a simple error you made too. Are you feeling okay? Not like you pooch such a basic OTU fact. :devil
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Oooo, and he squeaks it through!
As for usurpers and cheap excuses, "Right of Fleet Control", really? I mean who told Olav that was a good basis for his Claim? Pretty weak sauce if you ask me.
Good points.That's a matter of interpretation. Porfiria assassinated Cleon the Mad and was subsequently elected empress by the Moot. Those two facts are not disputed, but their linkage is. The library data does not not mention any Right of Assasination involved there, but rather that Porfiria was the oldest issue of Martin II. In other words, arguably the person with the best legitimate claim to the throne. The first emperor to claim the throne by right of assastination (and, perhaps not entirely incidentally, without support of the Moot) was Constantus in 609. He did refer to Porfiria in his claim (I think; can't locate a quote to that effect off hand), but usurpers are known for grabbing at any scrap of legitimacy they can contrive. After Constantus, the Right of Assasination was invoked by more usurpers. But Porfiria does not seem to have done so.
Sorry to disappoint you.
Hans
As for usurpers and cheap excuses, "Right of Fleet Control", really? I mean who told Olav that was a good basis for his Claim? Pretty weak sauce if you ask me.
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Spoken like a resident of the core worlds who has never considered that those awesome ships that look so cool on tri-D can actually shoot at an occupied planet.
Kidding around aside, this is what makes me think the Marines and Army have their own ships. Not ships of the line, but well armed transports, bombardment units, and system defense ships that are very close to battle riders. That plus reserve fleets help make sure a vice admiral can't carve off a chunk of the 3I while the Imperium is fighting elsewhere unless everyone thinks it is a great idea.
Really, son...
I am Reginan, not some Core worlder who doesn't understand what is when war comes to your doorstep (though I suppose they have a clue now). I am just saying Olav picked a pretty weak claim to the Throne and it is pure-dee, grade A groat feces.
G. Kashkanun Anderson
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Wow! A Marcher who doesn't worship every centimeter of dirt Admiral haut-Plankwell put his foot on?! Are you sure you're feeling alright, Magnus?
Yeah, yeah, very funny.
What, just because i have a sense of history? Please, we could be proud of him if he hadn't pooched the whole Imperium with his little display. But really, who backs the memory of the losers...wait, Dulinor?
+44.95°, -95.094°? My, you are in the boondocks.
Here is a link to the Traveller Wiki start page.
Here is a link to the entry for the Year 619.
Bookmark the first link. You can use it to easily find the answers to the many basic questions you'd otherwise post here.
Have fun reading and answering your own questions.
