What is happening with TNE?

[GBoyett]

Originally posted by Liam Devlin:
It stands to reason that the Ziru Sirka, who conquered the Imperium at TL-10, later at 11 finished it up, would stand as a PE with designs of their own, and survive into the TNE. Their politics aside vs Regency over Depot/MT/Rebellion era, no doubt left hard memories of 'co-operation" with Norris' heirs. Plausible.

Depending on the size of the NZSjr, How could the Regency scouts meet the RC? More likely any further exploration would be centered on learning about the Vland PE as they can either help or hinder Regency expansion back into continental Imperial Space.

Still I like the idea of a rebuilding Vland.

Originally posted by Liam Devlin:
And just when you think its all said and done with Capital being re-taken..they lose it to the outside force of the Dominate (Trailing threat-see also some very Jihad minded K'Kree (kill the humans-they brought about VIRUS-all must die! Cleanse the Stars of their kind!).
The K'Kree as well as Vland, went very far on TL-10 & TL-11, and thus will recover from the collapse, and return--with fury.

The Great K'Kree Hunt!
Hell! We could git dem starfishies to help!
Git the shotguns and BBQ Sauce!!

Originally posted by Liam Devlin:
The 4th Imperium arises as the major state, and the RC becomes the Free Leagues State..I imagine, also the Spinward Coalition & Deneb remain states as well.
Lots of regions remain in Wilds.

All of it works fer me.

Of the Hierate?? What of the Aslan? The BTC Hierate forces survived intact allied with the Regency...we shall see what unfolds there.

I could see three states developing, The Spinward Coalition, Deneb, and New Hierate in the Rimward section BTC, not to mention any spinward developement.

Originally posted by Liam Devlin:
Heretical,and wise? Surely an oxymoron if ever was.

Not really. Alot of the famous heretics were well learned and educated folks. They just had some weird ideas.

Originally posted by Liam Devlin:
BTW: the Peacemakers are that rare strain of AI-Virus debuted in "Vampire Fleets". One of them betrays the Insane God-Strains running Promise, and is actucally (surprise) the brains behind the human resistance on the planet.
The RC's acceptance of these AI's as Sophonts gives rise to the hostile reaction of the Regency vs. them in 1206 (that, and No Imperial Nobility! Run by--gasp, the people!Oh MY!-shock!-AlanB the middle class arises!)hahaha.

Oh no! Are they really going to give status to these murderers turned diplomats? What sort of deal was given to the Regency in order to accept the AIs?

I still have issues trusting something that regular resets, BSD (Blue Screen of Death) or goes Beep! Beep!

 

[PapaGolfWhiskey]

Virus is a Microsoft product?

That explains Vampires so much better.

 

[Liam Devlin]

Originally posted by Garf:
Virus is a Microsoft product?

That explains Vampires so much better.

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x 1248!!!
Thanx Garf, I needed that!

 

[GBoyett]

Originally posted by Garf:
Virus is a Microsoft product?

That explains Vampires so much better.

or worse. The user interface is the original Hamster Dance or the Viking Kittens.

 

[PapaGolfWhiskey]

That brings to mind a very strange scene.

Com officer: Captain I'm recieving a very strange signal.. it sounds like... singing.

Capt: really now. why not let us all hear it.

From the speaker: ah aaaaahhh ah...Ah Aaahhh ahh We come from the land of the Ice and Sn...

Capt: CUT TRANSMISSION! BATTLE STATIONS FIRE SANCASTERS FIRE ALL WEAPONS ARM THE SELF DESTRUCT CHARGES.. AHAHA AH!

 

[Liam Devlin]

Originally posted by George Boyett:

Depending on the size of the NZSjr, How could the Regency scouts meet the RC? More likely any further exploration would be centered on learning about the Vland PE as they can either help or hinder Regency expansion back into continental Imperial Space.

Still I like the idea of a rebuilding Vland.
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regency could have crossed via Usdiki (ala Arrival Vengenace reversed/ reft into Gushmege/ and angled down thru Zarushagar, meeting them at the tip of Diaspora/daibei/Zarushagar region. (the "NW-SE" connection idea), by-passing Vland entirely.
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[/QUOTE]The Great K'Kree Hunt!
Hell! We could git dem starfishies to help!
Git the shotguns and BBQ Sauce!!

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I prefer A-1, meself, but BBQ ain't half bad. The HF Navy would drop their Ithklur manned FTRS, and jump back a few parsecs. Then pop back to see what survived.
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[/QUOTE]Not really. Alot of the famous heretics were well learned and educated folks. They just had some weird ideas.
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Uh huh. 'Kay, I'll buy that fer now
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[qb][/QUOTE]Oh no! Are they really going to give status to these murderers turned diplomats? What sort of deal was given to the Regency in order to accept the AIs?

I still have issues trusting something that regular resets, BSD (Blue Screen of Death) or goes Beep! Beep!

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The Rc had folks with the same reservations, so it wasn't a complete eye-wash acceptance. Their role as MFD crew members of RCN ships in RC-Solee War led to their full acceptance versus the
Anti-Virus crowd there. (1204 citizenship of RC ammendemnt/ vampire Fleets/SG Lon Maggart's speech).

Hey, the sane AI's have their place too as sophonts. Strephon's folks/faction had the most liberal interpretation of pan-sophontism that I liked short of Daibei's in the rebellion era. If a sentient machine/ robot (TL-15& TL-16) murdered, it could face capital punishment too.

 

[GBoyett]

Originally posted by Liam Devlin:
regency could have crossed via Usdiki (ala Arrival Vengenace reversed/ reft into Gushmege/ and angled down thru Zarushagar, meeting them at the tip of Diaspora/daibei/Zarushagar region. (the "NW-SE" connection idea), by-passing Vland entirely.

I considered that but using a Cross Rift does bring two points.
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• Using the CR route means they know NZSJr exists. It's either it's big enough that they really can't go around it, or the Vilani are hostile or just plain xenophobic to outsiders.</font>
• Using the CR route is a BIG risk. If a vampire fleet is able to get thier hands on the coords, then Regency security is threatened. Even thru the anti-Virus measures, it's still possible to aquire the information. If the RQS have squadrons along the route, a vampire fleet can wreck havic to a very important resource, the Cross-Rift route.</font>

Originally posted by Liam Devlin:
I prefer A-1, meself, but BBQ ain't half bad. The HF Navy would drop their Ithklur manned FTRS, and jump back a few parsecs. Then pop back to see what survived.

What's the fun in that?
I want enjoy the thrill of the hunt.

I have to admit I would love to try some the meat sauces the Hivers used in the manipulation.

Originally posted by Liam Devlin:
The Rc had folks with the same reservations, so it wasn't a complete eye-wash acceptance. Their role as MFD crew members of RCN ships in RC-Solee War led to their full acceptance versus the
Anti-Virus crowd there. (1204 citizenship of RC ammendemnt/ vampire Fleets/SG Lon Maggart's speech).

Hey, the sane AI's have their place too as sophonts. Strephon's folks/faction had the most liberal interpretation of pan-sophontism that I liked short of Daibei's in the rebellion era. If a sentient machine/ robot (TL-15& TL-16) murdered, it could face capital punishment too.

Still like to know what sort of deal they gave the Regency.

Again I state my point:

I still have issues trusting something that regular resets, BSD (Blue Screen of Death) or goes Beep! Beep!

 

[Liam Devlin]

Originally posted by George Boyett:

I considered that but using a Cross Rift does bring two points.

• Using the CR route means they know NZSJr exists. It's either it's big enough that they really can't go around it, or the Vilani are hostile or just plain xenophobic to outsiders.
• Using the CR route is a BIG risk. If a vampire fleet is able to get thier hands on the coords, then Regency security is threatened. Even thru the anti-Virus measures, it's still possible to aquire the information. If the RQS have squadrons along the route, a vampire fleet can wreck havic to a very important resource, the Cross-Rift route.

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  I believe in MJD's Outline he mentioned the Usdiki Faction...meaning friendlies hold the mouth of the CR pass, GAB.As I read it...of course.
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  Still like to know what sort of deal they gave the Regency.
  
  Again I state my point:
  </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />I still have issues trusting something that regular resets, BSD (Blue Screen of Death) or goes Beep! Beep!

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  I have been known to go "Beep-Beep" a time or two on these lists.

 

[GBoyett]

Originally posted by Liam Devlin:
I have been known to go "Beep-Beep" a time or two on these lists.

Getting a bit self-conscience?

So what about that Great K'Kree Hunt?

 

[MJD]

I see the Lords of THunder got a mention. SO I'll say it: Virus is not G'Naak. Do the math.

 

[MJD]

To quote:

I would think the Black Imperium is the successor to Virus. (I.e. what is left after only "sane" Virus strains remain.) I am curious, in a traffic-accident sense, what sick and twisted form of man/machine combination has resulted there.

The Dominate, I would think, needs to be some non-human (obviously), non-Virus threat. My guess is that it is recovered K'kree on a "jihad" rampage.

The way that could work is the K'kree suffer from Virus just like everyone else. However, as they recover they discover that Virus was a human invention.

At that point the most militant, extreme views of K'kree thought take hold and they, as a group, decide that the only way to be safe from the meat eaters is to just kill them all.

End Quote.

This all seems very plausible to me. Though there may be the odd surprise.

 

[GBoyett]

Originally posted by MJD:
To quote:

I would think the Black Imperium is the successor to Virus. (I.e. what is left after only "sane" Virus strains remain.) I am curious, in a traffic-accident sense, what sick and twisted form of man/machine combination has resulted there.

The Dominate, I would think, needs to be some non-human (obviously), non-Virus threat. My guess is that it is recovered K'kree on a "jihad" rampage.

The way that could work is the K'kree suffer from Virus just like everyone else. However, as they recover they discover that Virus was a human invention.

At that point the most militant, extreme views of K'kree thought take hold and they, as a group, decide that the only way to be safe from the meat eaters is to just kill them all.

End Quote.

This all seems very plausible to me. Though there may be the odd surprise.

YES!!!
I can just smell the BBQs!!
I wonder how K'Kree veal taste?

I hope the Hivers will get into the fun.

I'm getting more excited by the minute.

 

[PapaGolfWhiskey]

Me too Com-rade... beep beep...er..

I seem to have performed an illegal operation Hang on while my core personality shuts down and reboots...

 

[GBoyett]

Originally posted by Garf:
Me too Com-rade... beep beep...er..

I seem to have performed an illegal operation Hang on while my core personality shuts down and reboots...

A VIRUS SPY!
DESTROY IT!!

 

[Liam Devlin]

Originally posted by MJD:
I see the Lords of THunder got a mention. SO I'll say it: Virus is not G'Naak. Do the math.

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No, Virus is not G'naak.
I did the math.

But the K'kree as late entry villains is a historical repeat in themes (I refer to MT Rebellion era/ Survival margin MJD), which is what your acolyte of the Temple of Evil meant, O Mighty One, and made reference to that in that context.
THE scale of which (The ley incursion/ G'naak's drive into Gateway) is of course the difference between Night and day in the titanic battle known as "last Stand".

In apologia for riling the Most High One,
the heretic abases himself with his reasons laid bare...

 

[Liam Devlin]

Originally posted by Garf:
Me too Com-rade... beep beep...er..

I seem to have performed an illegal operation Hang on while my core personality shuts down and reboots...

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Snicker...!ROFLMAO! Stop it..beep..beep..stop..(bluescreen of death...)..static

 

[Kpeterson]

Originally posted by MJD:
The Dominate, I would think, needs to be some non-human (obviously), non-Virus threat. My guess is that it is recovered K'kree on a "jihad" rampage.

Wow.
Simply, that would be just cool. I'd love to set a campaign during a K'Kree jihad.

At that point the most militant, extreme views of K'kree thought take hold and they, as a group, decide that the only way to be safe from the meat eaters is to just kill them all.

Pardon me, because I'm rather clueless when it comes to some parts of the OTU. The K'Kree were rather "domesticated" from their war with the Hivers... and during the New Era (~1201) the Hivers were able to rebuild somewhat quickly from Virus' assault... would Hivers still pose a threat to K'Kree "jihad" expansion?

 

[Liam Devlin]

KPeterson posted-"Pardon me, because I'm rather clueless when it comes to some parts of the OTU. The K'Kree were rather "domesticated" from their war with the Hivers... and during the New Era (~1201) the Hivers were able to rebuild somewhat quickly from Virus' assault... would Hivers still pose a threat to K'Kree "jihad" expansion?'
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They know that Virus is from the Humans...not the Hivers. The K'Kree will go after the weakened Humans state ASAP in this Jihad. A better question--will the Hivers stand by their allied humans, or sit on the sidelines as the K'Kree roll on.

 

[GBoyett]

Originally posted by Liam Devlin:
A better question--will the Hivers stand by their allied humans, or sit on the sidelines as the K'Kree roll on.

I hope so.

Besides having the tech and knowledge on dealing with the K'Kree, the Hiver also have the meat sauce recipe.

 

[Liam Devlin]

GAB posted-"Besides having the tech and knowledge on dealing with the K'Kree, the Hiver also have the meat sauce recipe."
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True to that. Now that would put TJ back in the black if he got his hands on THAT recipe!