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Don't Panic

I've talked positively about the game on the Mongoose forum on this board and know several people who have as well. I've also talked critically about one of the books I bought that I didn't think was up to a good standard (I won't mention which one - it's irrelevant to the conversation). So, did you actually read EVERY post? Or just the ones someone bitched about on another board? Because you obviously missed the positive ones.

Have I actually complained about you specifically? I don't think I have. So why are you taking this so personally?


Again, don't believe everything you read.

Again, your positive experience here does not negate the negative experiences that others have had (including myself). And I guess you are expecting me to disbelieve all the hostility that I am reading here, on this board? Because this doesn't come from elsewhere. It's right here for all to see. Just go look at the locked threads on the Mongoose board.


Also, 1 forum out of 46 doesn't make the whole board bad.

I never said that it did. It's just that the other 45 don't really offer anything that is offered elsewhere in a more compact form (seriously, do you really need 46 different forums here?), and the discussions here aren't really any different or higher quality than elsewhere in my opinion.


You've made it quite clear that you aren't happy here. You've also made it clear that you know of another place on the Internet where you would be happy. So, I have to wonder - why are you still here?

Do you want people to stay on this board or not? It seems to me that you don't. I would have thought that if there was a genuine will to encourage people to remain then there would be less of this "shut up, stop complaining and go elsewhere" attitude and more "you know, you have a point. And that point has been raised many times by others in the past and ignored each time. Maybe we should do finally something about it so that people won't be driven away".

But hey, if you want to be all pissy about it, then stop whining about the traffic being low here and about how people don't stay on this board, because this hostile attitude is exactly why they don't stay. Like I said, it's all just bad vibes and negativity here.

I don't really think it's worth hanging around to find out what this "big deal" is though, it's probably not going to change anything around here anyway.
 
Like I said, it's all just bad vibes and negativity here.

I don't get that at all. I'm hardly one of the "in crowd" here. But this is just about the most polite board I've ever been on. Compared to some boards I frequent (notably martial arts ones) where perversion, personal attacks, and sadistic mocking of each others academic abilities / countries / religious beliefs / political views is common place & the only limiting factor is the likely possibilty of a real life armed encounter at an international tounament. CotI is really "Mary Poppins". I'm more than happy about that.
 
Again, your positive experience here does not negate the negative experiences that others have had (including myself).

So let me get this right: you joined the board less than 32 days ago and about half of your posts have been in this thread that we're having this inane discussion in. Do you always show up on webforums and start telling people how they should run their sites? I noticed in the first thread you posted on (which is almost the other half of the posts you've made on this site) you became argumentative with the originator of the thread. Right from the start - from your very first post. Of course we want people to stay and talk about Traveller. Let us know when you're going to do that. It's easy to look through your few posts and see how little YOU want to talk about Traveller, tho. And how negative you are. In fact I think I only see three or four of your 41 posts where you actually said something positive. Everything else was crapping on someone or something.

It's obvious you've been talking to other people who don't like this site. I sure hope this doesn't have anything to do with the grudge against Hunter. Because that would be cyberstalking. You might want to look up the Federal Telecommunications Act and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act sometime. You do know that the FBI is looking for evidence of people interfering with interstate commerce and that this site is an interstate commerce website defined under Federal law?

You'll have to excuse me, I'm going to have to stop responding here, I'm allergic to Troll.
 
It's obvious you've been talking to other people who don't like this site. I sure hope this doesn't have anything to do with the grudge against Hunter. Because that would be cyberstalking. You might want to look up the Federal Telecommunications Act and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act sometime. You do know that the FBI is looking for evidence of people interfering with interstate commerce and that this site is an interstate commerce website defined under Federal law?

Seriously?
 
So let me get this right: you joined the board less than 32 days ago

Yes, and in the space of a month I've had to deal with anti-science fruitcakes and have been yelled at for daring to disagree with someone's very biased viewpoint against Mongoose.


I noticed in the first thread you posted on (which is almost the other half of the posts you've made on this site) you became argumentative with the originator of the thread. Right from the start - from your very first post.

Of course, you fail to mention that the OP was actually talking nonsense, and I was disagreeing with him because of that, largely because as a professional research scientist I don't appreciate being called "myopic". I suppose that I missed the unwritten law where one has to agree with everything that people say even when it's complete BS?

My first experiences posting on this board have been bad. I have no interest in posting in threads about the inanities of canon or whatever. I post in threads where I think "hey, that's not right" and I present my viewpoint. It so happens that the first thread involved people with an agenda against science, and the other thread involved people with an agenda against Mongoose. And this thread involves people who seem to want to dismiss any criticism of the site or the way it's run (which so far in my experience has been "very poorly").


Because that would be cyberstalking.

Says the stalker who is counting my posts and telling me what I'm saying in all of them. :oo:


You might want to look up the Federal Telecommunications Act and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act sometime. You do know that the FBI is looking for evidence of people interfering with interstate commerce and that this site is an interstate commerce website defined under Federal law?

Seriously? You're threatening me now? That's literally hysterical. :oo: (I don't even know why any of that is relevant, since nobody has done anything to interfere with anyone's commerce).

I have actually been reading the posts on the accessible parts of this board for a lot longer than my registered date implies (you do realize that the Mongoose board and the Website Issues are publicly accessible, right?) and I've seen a lot of the crap that's been thrown around here on those boards. I only registered to see if there was anything else worthwhile on the other boards here, but all I got for my troubles were arguments with paranoid conspiracy theorists and a lot of spit and bile in my face from someone who hates Mongoose. That's why I don't see much good in the place, and you're just confirming everything I've said so far.

Whatever. You've convinced me that there's nothing redeemable here. Add another to the list of people driven away by the attitude of people on this board.
 
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No it isn't. I looked up the both 'literally' and 'hysterical' (just to be sure) and the events are not even close to being 'literally hysterical'.

Invoking the Federal Telecommunications Act and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and suggesting the FBI would be interested in his activities, over a row with a stranger on the internet?
I think that's hysterical.

I'll get my coat.
 
literally
1. Word for word; not as an idiom or metaphor.

hysterical
1. Of, characterized by, or arising from hysteria. (Behavior exhibiting excessive or uncontrollable emotion, such as fear or panic. )

2. Having or prone to having hysterics (A fit of uncontrollable laughing or crying.)

The qualifier ‘literally’ precludes the common informal definition of hysterical:
3. Extremely funny: told a hysterical story.
Which appears to have been the writer's intended meaning.

I found the entire exchange anything but funny and doubt that reading it resulted in any fits of uncontrollable laughing, crying or other emotion.

YMMV
 
Invoking the Federal Telecommunications Act and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and suggesting the FBI would be interested in his activities, over a row with a stranger on the internet?
I think that's hysterical.

I'll get my coat.

No, that would be the part where he threatened to steer people away from this Interstate Commerce website because he, personally, couldn't get along here. That would be where he's interfering with Interstate Commerce. Especially if all he's doing is Trolling. When he actually starts contributing something positive to the site and doesn't just bitch about what he doesn't like about the site, I might start listening, but until then, sorry, all I smell is Troll.
 
Arguing via forum post

Really? In all the glory of life and time and space, THIS arguing is what your best choice is?

Ignore each other with a simple :rofl:
 
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A bastion of sanity in the war-zone of the insane.

Still, the activity drop on this board over the last three to five years has been profound to say the lest. I mean, there can't be that much of a shift in lack of interest. But that's just me. The people who used to be be here, the grognards and gear heads, the people I interacted with, were highly civil.

But now they're gone. I'm hoping the new upcoming transformation will beckon them hither.

I'm still seeing the same rate of 10-30 threads per day getting activity as I was 3 years ago; the heydey was about 50 threads per day, but that was in 2002...
 
I must say that this "big annoucement" seems to have been rather bungled. Among all the noise in this thread, the mod announcements seem to have been along the lines of:

Oh, come on! This thread (or most of it, until you started an exposition on how terrible this forum was and all the arguing that followed that) is quite entertaining. Wonderfully entertaining.
 
And on top of that, mods don't apply the rules in the same way;

That is a problem, and one I'd like to fix.

Criticism is perfectly fine, but IMO it crosses the line when it gets vitriolic, lecturing, insulting, and filled with snarkiness and sarcasm.

I completely agree. If you see a post like that please report it.

I am not even sure why there is a Mongoose board on CotI to start with, or an SJG one for that matter since they have their own board too. Maybe you should consider removing them completely if there is going to be a forum reshuffle?

Ain't gonna happen. One of COTI's strengths is that it covers the whole of Traveller, all under the same roof.
 
I agree with the last point there. I'm not a big Steve Jackson Games fan, but admire much of the creativity they've produced. If their boards are anything like the boards of another BBS, then I'd rather the relative calm pleasantness of the COTI, where the other iterations of the game can be discussed without all the other stuff that occurs elsewhere.

Besides, weren't we diving into a planet or something? ;)
 
(shuffles between the rows of seats with a hot dog and a cup of cola, settles down and puts on some oversized 3D glasses)

"I heard something big was being announced here; are these the commercials I'm watching or is it the main feature?"
 
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