2320AD
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Roger Calver
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A month is not that long it give you some time to get things done else where if needed to.
... it's not that I'm twitchy about the T20 players book or anything, but I had a look in the MS today - 157,000 words.
That's a LOT of my working-time (= money) tied up in the project. On a decend day I produce 3,000 words or so, 6 days a week is 18,000 words in a good week. So realistically this is a minimum of 3 months' work for me just lying around.
I mean yeah, QLI has money tied up in 2320 but *I* have an investment in this book. This is how I make my living - writing and getting paid, not writing and sitting on the manuscript.
So I'm for not wasting time on partial 2320 books - I say do the layout once, for a single final version, then move on. Seems to me like you could finish two projects in the same time frame.
Or am I missing something?
That's a LOT of my working-time (= money) tied up in the project. On a decend day I produce 3,000 words or so, 6 days a week is 18,000 words in a good week. So realistically this is a minimum of 3 months' work for me just lying around.
I mean yeah, QLI has money tied up in 2320 but *I* have an investment in this book. This is how I make my living - writing and getting paid, not writing and sitting on the manuscript.
So I'm for not wasting time on partial 2320 books - I say do the layout once, for a single final version, then move on. Seems to me like you could finish two projects in the same time frame.
Or am I missing something?
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Malenfant
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Then there's no real reason why it needs to come out in three separate chunks is there - I agree with Martin, I'd say blast through the layout and get a final, complete, polished product out there.
Of course this all hinges on you being around to work on this. Can you guarantee that you're not going to disappear on us suddenly again?
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Malenfant
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I'm sure your personal issues have taken priority, but at the same time those issues have prevented you from running your business - so you shouldn't really be surprised that it has suffered in your absence, or that existing customers run out of patience, or that prospective customers are turned away by the poor service they've received.
Personally, I'll accept that you're "back" when I actually see a finished product released, work being done on the next one, and everyone's outstanding issues with QLI being resolved. I don't think that's being particularly demanding, it's just a normal expectation that any customer would have of any business in this situation. But you can't just expect people to unconditionally cheer at your return if we have no guarantee that you won't disappear again (and maybe you don't have control over that at all, but that doesn't change the issue) - particularly since you said you're back once a few months ago but very little has happened since then (until now).
The reality is that you need to demonstrate to your customers that QLI really is getting back in motion again if you want us to regain confidence in you, and that's going to take some time.
I am glad that you're back. I'm glad you're starting to get things out of the door (though I'd prefer that they're done properly and not rushed out). I just hope that you're back for good and can devote enough time and attention to QLI to get it back up and running and to regain the confidence of your customers.
Rhialto the Marvelous
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Mal, he's working on it... give the man a break, please?
Since I am creating the design, layout and a number of pieces of art for the final book, I would caution against setting expectations of having the final book completed within a month. There are a number of things that need to come together all at once to make this project successful, and any one of them can cause delays for the entire project. We need to get the final set of illustrations settled, review and acceptance of design and layout, final approval of stellar coordinates, star maps and related cartography, iterate through drafts and comps, create the inevitable overlooked essential items, etc.
Much work was shelved or put on the back burner when Hunter was unavailable, and this work will have to be restarted and completed.
I want to set a realistic expectation so that people aren't disappointed in a month if things don't all come together flawlessly.
- Ted
P.S. I do think that the book is going to rock. Colin's manuscript is awesome and I'm going to do my best to create an elegant, useful book that breaks away from the cluttered, cookie-cutter presentation so common these days.
Much work was shelved or put on the back burner when Hunter was unavailable, and this work will have to be restarted and completed.
I want to set a realistic expectation so that people aren't disappointed in a month if things don't all come together flawlessly.
- Ted
P.S. I do think that the book is going to rock. Colin's manuscript is awesome and I'm going to do my best to create an elegant, useful book that breaks away from the cluttered, cookie-cutter presentation so common these days.
hunter
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Ted it right, and it looks like I may not have made myself clear. The early version of all 3 books should well be available within a month of the first release, not the final.
As to why I am doing it this way, it is because there are a LOT of people who would like to get their hands on the material as soon as they can, rather than wait for a final version with all the frills (ie: artwork and a snazzier layout). That will be about the only difference between the early and final versions. The material itself will be the same in both.
As to why I am doing it this way, it is because there are a LOT of people who would like to get their hands on the material as soon as they can, rather than wait for a final version with all the frills (ie: artwork and a snazzier layout). That will be about the only difference between the early and final versions. The material itself will be the same in both.
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Malenfant
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I have to wonder how many people would be so desperate to get 2320AD that they'd pay for three separate products with no art or layout, when they know that a final, complete version with great art and layout will be out later on.
And I can't think of a better way to fizzle out any excitement over it - without the great art there to wow people straight away I can't help but think that it'll have a much harder time getting off the ground.
Given the work that Colin and Ted and everyone has put into 2320AD, I really think it deserves a lot better than this.
And I can't think of a better way to fizzle out any excitement over it - without the great art there to wow people straight away I can't help but think that it'll have a much harder time getting off the ground.
Given the work that Colin and Ted and everyone has put into 2320AD, I really think it deserves a lot better than this.
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