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Any news from Hunter?

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Here's another horrible thought: travellerrpg.com appeares to be hosted at rpgrealms.com. Its almost certainly just a chunk of rpgrealms' web hosting package accessed via a different domain name using something called web forwarding. The rpgrealms.com domain expires this Saturday! If the web hosting package was brought at the same time we could see CotI go off the air at the same time.

This could be the last week of CotI!!! :(

Does anyone have the ability to save a backup of CotI?
 
Short answer - No,
Long answer - No, unless your Hunter.

I suppose Sunday morning will be interesting.
 
Short answer - No,
Long answer - No, unless your Hunter.

I suppose Sunday morning will be interesting.
I just keep thinking about the Y2K dooms day that never arrived. I wonder if the death of CotI is the same thing. Sunday will come and Sunday will go and like Y2K it will just be a memory of a fear.

Daniel
 
I just keep thinking about the Y2K dooms day that never arrived. I wonder if the death of CotI is the same thing. Sunday will come and Sunday will go and like Y2K it will just be a memory of a fear.

Daniel

Except that I still have my December 1999 backup disks.
 
Just to put this whole thing in perspective:

1) The Sad Case of WEG

Dude buys WEG, including d6 system, excluding Star Wars license. Churns out d6 genre books (d6 Space, d6 Adventure, d6 Fantasy). They don't sell. By sheer good fortune, dude manages to get Bill Coffin on board. Coffin writes Septimus, a high octane SW rip-off (in a good way, it seems) setting for d6.

Even so, preorders are disappointing. Publication is cancelled. Dude offers to return preorder payment, then offers to reimburse with product, then disappears altogether. The fallout:

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=402712

2) The Sad Case of Morrigan Press

Dude publishes Talislanta 5th edition and Terran Trade Authority, then disappears without paying freelancers.

3) The Sad case of Guardians of Order

Dude runs a very respectable RPG company for years, putting out lots of popular gaming accoutrements, then runs afoul of US/CAN$ exchange rate. Tries to stay afloat in spite of factual bankruptcy, keeps commissioning manuscripts and artwork to "turn it around." Then disappears, leaving major losses in his wake.
 
Even so, preorders are disappointing. Publication is cancelled. Dude offers to return preorder payment, then offers to reimburse with product, then disappears altogether. The fallout:

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=402712

There is a really interesting post there by a guy called Balbinus (post 203 on page 21, http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=8912011&postcount=203). I'll quote it here in full because it seems to describe exactly what has happened to QLI:

Balbinus on RPGnet said:
It's very common when one-man band type companies or companies with one sole front guy start going under, for the shutters to come down and communication cease.

Often the guy running the company will juggle funds, trying to repay some people, using funds from some to satisfy others, desperately trying to keep things on the road until something turns up to save the day (often quite a specific something, but rarely something that is actually certain to happen).

By the time the company fails, the individual is frequently embarassed and ashamed, unable to face up to the people whose money they took (in good, if ill judged, faith typically) and unable of course to meet the financial demands that have been racking up the whole time. Frequently they will have been in denial about what is happening for some time, and simply cannot face up to the reality of the situation. Often they are in such a state of funk they just don't know what to do and ordinary good judgement gets wholly suspended.

Eventually the company fails with bad feelings all round.

It's quite a recognisable cycle, and I fear is what is happening here. I don't really understand the emotions that drive someone into that cycle, I'm not sure one can without experiencing it, but it's often actually quite good people who get themselves into this particular mess as it's the attempt to keep faith with customers which actually makes things worse. Bastards just walk away at an earlier point, so ironically doing less overall harm to their customers.

None of this is a defence, and may not be happening, but it's what it sounds like to me.

Seriously seems to be right on the ball as a description of QLI doesn't it.
 
This horrible though struck me, is QLI actually a solvent business? I don't know, I don't need to know since I'm not financially involved, others may need to know however. If it is insolvent though is it illegal for it to be trading. I don't know business laws vary greatly from place to place. Hopefully that thought was just a bad dream.

This is a very interesting question. It seems that QLI is still getting sales (unless those top sellers charts on the home page are really out of date or the #1 seller is really only getting a handful of sales per week... but it's still money coming in).

But I do wonder if QLI isn't actually bankrupt already or owes a lot more money than it's getting and there's no hope of recovery. If Hunter really has had no computer for over two months then that seems to imply that he can't afford to get a replacement for it (because frankly if you're running a business with a strong internet presence then you NEED a computer and it should be your highest priority to get up and runnin again), and that doesn't bode well for his personal finances.
 
Except hes talking about WEG here and not QLI, to use it as an example of "what" maybe happening at QLI would be unfair.
 
Just remember that when people are making comments on the running of a buisiness and what the owners "doing" you are walking a fine line between theory and slander (or something else - Im no lawyer)

Rog.
 
Except hes talking about WEG here and not QLI, to use it as an example of "what" maybe happening at QLI would be unfair.

Not really. Balbinus was describing the general case that he's seen of "one man companies" failing. QLI is a "one-man company" and the general case seems to fit the observations of what's happening here very well.
 
Just remember that when people are making comments on the running of a buisiness and what the owners "doing" you are walking a fine line between theory and slander (or something else - Im no lawyer)

Rog.

I know that, which is why I'm sticking firmly on the side of "theory". Despite what people like Aramis may claim I haven't accused Hunter of anything here. I'm just taking what I see and speculating on why it could be happening, not claiming that it IS what is happening. If that speculation isn't appropriate then that's one thing, but it's a far cry from being "slander".

But you have to admit that its a bit strange that Hunter went from "broken hard drive" to "no computer" and has been that way for two months. I suppose one alternative may be that it was under warranty and he sent it off to some distant repair center to get fixed but two months is still a long time to wait for it to come back in my experience.
 
Slander or libel, depending upon the truth of the matter....

...slander if not true, libel if it is...

... and both are actionable in most states.
 
I will admit that its been a long time thats for sure, and I wish that he would find someway of getting a post out.

If people want to make comments about Hunter/QLI then make it the truth that you can back up and not "fine-line" theory - I dont want to moderate people for slipping over that line.

Rog.

And this is a gentle hint here !
 
Summary,

Any word from Hunter ? - No
Why is that ? - Unknown.

Anything else is pure speculation/theory.

Is there anything else to add to this thread that doesnt warrant a split ?

Rog.
 
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Summary,

Any word from Hunter ? - No
Why is that ? - Unknown.

Anything else is pure speculation/theory.

Is there anything else to add to this thread that doesnt warrant a slip ?

Rog.

Depends if you want to allow people to speculate or not. Perhaps the hope was that Hunter may hear about this thread and find a way to get in touch again, but evidently that is not happening.

If all the QLI websites close down in the next week or two then so be it. It's hunter's responsibility to maintain and renew those. The (unfortunate?) thing is that QLI products will continue to be sold through places like drivethrurpg even if QLI dies through inactivity, unless Hunter admits that it's over and tells them to stop.
 
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I do hope as well that hes seen this thread, I have emailed/PM'd him to let him know about it (as well as Bruce).

The issue is more that its just going round and round but if/when he returns its just getting peoples backs up (on both sides of the discussion).

Please note, I dont care on either side as when hes back (if he is) im gone for good anyway now as Ive had enough of CotI now.
 
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