Gallowglacht
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Assuming I don't want to use the Mongoose system, how much of this edition would I find useful? What cool bits could I steal?
Any non system goodies?
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You could use chargen, equipment customization rules (nicely done), and ship design, without having to use the game engine.
Plankowner
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The character generation is nice because it gives some more details about what happened during that 4 year chunk. There are Life Events and Mishaps and other Events.
Also, the connection rule is a good way to explain why all these diverse characters ended up together. Skills might be a bit light for whatever edition of Traveller rules you like, but that can be fixed by giving more skills per term (MGT gives 1 plus 1 for promotion).
Also, the connection rule is a good way to explain why all these diverse characters ended up together. Skills might be a bit light for whatever edition of Traveller rules you like, but that can be fixed by giving more skills per term (MGT gives 1 plus 1 for promotion).
GypsyComet
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Assuming you don't already have TNE, the MGT book also revives the concept of Ship Shares.
Gallowglacht
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I have CT (reprint), friend has MT, I have TNE, friend has T4, I have GURPS Traveller and T20. Kinda want Mongoose for completeness, but need convincing.
tbeard1999
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Assuming they kept the playtest starship design rules, they make a nice replacement for Book 2 starship construction rules. BTW, I'm still waiting for my pre-ordered copy. Anyone else still waiting?
Gallowglacht
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Good point
Oh yeah, didn't think of that.
Morgan, if you're reading this, buy Mongoose Traveller.
Following that progression isn't it your friend's turn to buy the game?
Oh yeah, didn't think of that.
Morgan, if you're reading this, buy Mongoose Traveller.
I'm waiting for my pre-ordered book as well, but I'm in Israel and shipping here typically takes quite a long time even with air-mail.
tbeard1999
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Well, I did preorder rather late (April 9), so I imagine my order is near the end of the queue.
UPDATE: Got a response from Mongoose. They've sold out of the initial printing, but expect more in by Friday. Since the consumer's purpose in preordering is to get a copy of the game as soon as possible, this is unwelcome news. Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems to me that preorders should have been fulfilled ahead of distributor orders (unless, of course, the distributors also prepaid for their copies; in that case I have no problem with "first come, first served")). In any case, the quantity of preorders was known, so it seems inexcusable that enough copies were not retained from the initial print run to fulfill them. At the very least, I should have been alerted by email so I could decide whether to buy from a local game store or wait for Mongoose to fulfill it.
Of course, this is something of a Traveller tradition as well. I recall the preorder fiasco with Imperium Games when T4 came out. Still, it's annoying. I don't imagine I'll be preordering again.
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Gallowglacht
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Or maybe it just describes rpg.net as "irrelevant".
tbeard1999
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I think whoever said that was speaking out of his nether regions. MGT was (IMHO) as close to a sure thing as it gets in the RPG business. There are a *lot* of old Traveller players out there and nostalgia is a powerful incentive. Of course, I make this assertion only for the initial rulebook. From that point on, the game system will have to carry its own weight. But even at the height of my, uh, constructive critical disputes with MGT, I never thought it would fail to sell well at the start.
GypsyComet
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Oh, I still think several of the stated goals from the initial announcements are impossible, but the game itself can be quite good and still fail at those goals, given how the Traveller "Community" works (or doesn't).
It's likely that they "paid" by purchase order (literally a line of credit), and are thus legitimately in line well before you, Ty.
Hey tbeard, has anyone 'thanked' you for that? I understood your arguments against the effect/timing system as it was in the playetst, and it's heartening to see they removed it. I _suspect_ that removal had a lot to do with your championing the Rightious Way, and so MGT is better for you. Thanks, from me at least.
tbeard1999
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Well, one nice fellow compared me to a suicide bomber...
Traveller Akbar!
Thank you. In my experience, critics are almost *never* thanked, even when their advice is taken. Which might be a Good Thing in general, since critics can be awfully irritating.
And I've found that while people forgive a lot of things, they will seldom forgive you for being right...
In any case, I am relieved that Mongoose (apparently) took the legitimate criticisms to heart and ditched those mechanics, despite the fact that the design team (and a vocal fan contingent) seemed in love with them. That took stones and Mongoose is to be commended for it.
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tbeard1999
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Well, anything is possible. But until some confirmation is received from Mongoose, your speculation is merely that--speculation.
And the more I think about it, the less impressed I am with how Mongoose handled it.
Fact -- they had to know how many copies were preordered by both individual consumers and distributors.
Fact -- They had to know how many copies they were printing.
Fact -- this information would make it easy for them to determine if they were gonna be able to fulfill a preorder.
In my opinion, they should not have taken a consumer's money for a preorder if they already knew that stores would get the product before the consumer did. At the very least, they should have informed the customer that his order would be delayed and offered a refund. Since the preorders are via email, this is a trivially easy task.
If they take a customer's money, they should deliver the product/service that the customer reasonably expects. Or at least warn him that his expectations won't be met.
Instead, Mongoose apparently took the money, used it, then shipped the product to others. I can't find a good face to put on that.
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Plankowner
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Maybe this is there little dig back at you for your "constructive criticism"! :devil:
Seriously, I preordered and got mine last week, so I am a bit surprised you haven't gotten yours yet.
Seriously, I preordered and got mine last week, so I am a bit surprised you haven't gotten yours yet.
I've pre-ordered mine in early March and it was sent from Mongoose (I've checked this with them) about two weeks ago; still hasn't reached me. But shipping here to Israel takes time and this week we had both the Military Memorial Day and the Independence Day so this might also be the reason for the delay of my package.
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