Aslan, Vargr, Droyne and their Vacc-Suits

[Scarecrow]

So Aslan, Vargr, Droyne and other non-humanoid races. What do they do with their bits then?

I know from experience that dog and cat tails are semi-rigid. They can't be rolled into a ball and tucked away so what do the Aslan and Vargr do with them in their Vacc-Suits and armour?

Strap it to a leg? That'd be mightily uncomfortable particularly for long periods. And what if they need it for balancing as many tail-bearers do?
So My guess is that they'd have a third 'leg' in the suit to keep it in.

Also, Droyne, I suppose they'd fold their wings up into a 'hump' in the suit.

Thoughts?

Crow

 

[Piper]

FWIW, most artists render them as third leg. The only one I can think of who doesn't is Mark Stanley in Freefall. This is an EVA suit, though and doesn't have divided legs so it's not the best example.
A pressurized tail tube would seem likely to be fairly stiff, like wearing a 2x4. Putting the tail in one of the legs would seem best, but would it cause a problem sitting?

Droyne might be different depending on how they're built. Their tails might be quite stiff near the pelvis and would require a separate tube.
There's a neat illustration of what may be battledress here.
This seems impractical and doesn't leave a lot of room for the life-support unit.

Definitely food for thought.

 

[mike wightman]

The CT Droyne Alien module has a full page illustration showing a Droyne Warrior in combat armour, which includes armoured wing casing.

 

[Scarecrow]

That'll be the pic that Piper linked to, I think.

Crow

 

[mike wightman]

No, the one in the module is full page and more detailed.
Similar in appearance though

 

[far-trader]

Originally posted by Sigg Oddra:
No, the one in the module is full page and more detailed.
Similar in appearance though

Was that the one with the half cut-away view or am I thinking something else?

 

[Andrew Boulton]

I think you're thinking of the Imp Marine BD pic (in RSB?)

 

[Scarecrow]

Originally posted by Sigg Oddra:
No, the one in the module is full page and more detailed.
Similar in appearance though

Ahhh righto!

Crow

 

[mike wightman]

Or possibly the Zhodani combat armour...

 

[far-trader]

Yeah, might be the Zho version I'm picturing, thanks Andrew and Sigg.

 

[bryan gibson]

Droyne might be different depending on how they're built. Their tails might be quite stiff near the pelvis and would require a separate tube.
There's a neat illustration of what may be battledress here.
This seems impractical and doesn't leave a lot of room for the life-support unit.

heh, thats one of mine!

What youre looking at, as the pic states, is combat armor for droyne, and shouldn't be confused for a vacc suit, which is a different critter entirely.Combat armor in this case being hardshell armor..lifesupport issues are minimal, hardy on the scale of a vacc suit, which would be depicted much differently.

Personally I have always depicted tailed creaures as having the "third leg", for the simplst reason being most tailed creauures use em for balance (bipeds, anyway) and wouldn't be comfortable wearing them any other way. The idea of tucking them away, or suchlike is a strictly unimaginative approach to my thinking, predicated on the assumption that a tailed creature would feel constrained to use our concessions to design or for comfort, which I personally don't buy.

Any critter that has a tail probably isnt inclined to do away with it for reasons of comfort, balance, or simply because it just doesnt make sense - it might simply never occur to them its an impediment, they live with it all their lives, why, thats human thinking!

Poor handicapped humans, never knowing the joys of a good wag, and probably never having the benifit of expression a good tail brings. What would an aslan do if he couldn't switch his tail in agitation? How limited our body language must seem!

These reasons, if for nothing else are why I always depict tailed creatures with their tails suited as an extremity. Besides, any other way just wouldn't seem to make sense.

 

[Piper]

Originally posted by bryan gibson:
heh, thats one of mine!

Cool! And my compliments to you, sir.
I've always considered that to be "the" Definitive Droyne. The main reason I cited artists is because they have actually had to spend the time analyzing questions like this.

I don't have the original and the website wasn't clear. I couldn't remember whether it was combat armor or battledress.

The impractical part was in reference to the problems of trying to fit a life support pack and wings together on one critter. Your concept is excellent; it's the Droyne limb arrangement that makes problems. If you were to do a Droyne vacc suit, would you imagine something like an inverted T running between the wings down to a belt pack? Or enclosing the wings when a full pack was needed?

 

[Gruffty]

Originally posted by far-trader:
Yeah, might be the Zho version I'm picturing, thanks Andrew and Sigg.

There's a picture of a Zho in Battle Dress in CT AM 4 but it's not a cut away.

The cut away of the Imp Marine is in the MT RSB.

Just checked CT Adv 3 (Twilight's Peak) - no pic of a droyne in battle dress there.....

 

[mike wightman]

According to Secret of the Ancients, the ancient Droyne vacc suits (Shimmersuits) have a hump on the back for accomodating folded wings.
Humans wearing the suits use this space for extra oxygen tanks, commo gear, etc.

 

[Scarecrow]

Originally posted by bryan gibson:
Much Snippage of most agreeable reasoning

I like your thinking, squire. I feel exactly the same way.

Sigg, Humans wearing Droyne Vacc-Suits? How would that work!!!!!?

Crow

 

[mike wightman]

They are ancient era vacc suits, made of an elastic material which will stretch to fit.

The gloves have only three fingers though...

I don't think a human would fit into a modern era Droyne vacc suit - unless it was a small human and a large Droyne...