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Campaign cartographer 3

I've found this forum to be faster on the answers :) I'll give PF a go, though, thanks.

EDIT. Hmm... interesting. Registered there, got approved, and my help request posting never got to the forum, looks like - took ages to process, and I can find no trace of it. Even my post count there remains at zero. So much for that idea, I guess.

Despite the eyestrain, I've also posted a help call on the Cartographers Guild forums.

So.

Let's see if my faith in fellow travellers can beat the CG to the punch, shall we?
 
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Never mind, finally happened upon the right combination!

Ever-so-slightly processed result below...

H_and_E_Hnaar_map.gif


Processing was to maintain alignment with other images on the maps page of the new website.

Example:
hnaar-gaia.gif


So, all I have to do now is go in, tidy up the map, and voaila - No more worries over having to mess with Fireworks and hours of processing using four different packages each time I want a map - WHOOPEEE! :)
 
What is the answer?

I actually use CC2 and soon CC3 as my PRIMARY drawing program. But I have the same difficulty.

I get the image too large error importing raster graphic images.

My only solution has been to cut the resolution before import. A not very satisfying solution so far.

As an aside, I though I saw a note from profantasy my e-mail that Cosmographer 3 is either out or pre-order immanent.

ANYTHING that needs cad work, CC2 is easier and a MUCH reduced learning curve. And even simple drawings I find the control is just not there for anything in ANY other drawing package I have tried.

I have also exported images into jpeg to process further in photo apps and other more artistic programs.

The only thing I can't do well in CC is freehand, and frankly, if I need aanything freehand, I am diging up clip art, scetching myself on paper and scanning, or finding an artist to draw on paper and scan.

I do Desk-top publishing, small scale. Bussiness cards, flyers, programs for events and he like. A side job, but it brings in a little extra money.
 
I actually use CC2 and soon CC3 as my PRIMARY drawing program. But I have the same difficulty.

I get the image too large error importing raster graphic images.
Unfortunately, the import of images in to CC3 has been viewed to be one of two things. Either as background image (low resolution) to allow tracing of a raster image in order to get it in to CC3 or small bitmap images for pattern fills.
 
Which is why you should use CC2 to import the bitmap, THEN process it in CC3 :)

In cc2...
1. Create a new layer, and give it a name, eg FT-MAP
2. go EDIT -> INSERT FILE and de-check "EMBED IN DRAWING" and "OUTLINE BITMAP"
3. Highlight the file you want to insert, and click "OPEN"
4. Use the mouse to go to the top left corner of where you want the image pasted, and left click once. Go to the bottom right corner of where you want the image pasted, and left click once.

BINGO!

You can now trace over the sucker as much as you want I'd freeze the darn thing before you do that, save the resulting FCW file, and select another layer to play with, before you do anything else, mind, maybe even save it and then open it into CC3 and play with it there ;)

Hope the above helps someone, anyhow :)
 
You're not including the bitmap in the FCW file doing that. You're creating an external link to the file. Move the file and it won't display any more.
 
Granted, yes, but it is a workable get around the "bitmap too large" problem.

Maybe I wasn't that clear in my last post... it was posted after a fairly long shift at work, after all :)

Once all the steps I outlined have been followed, there is nothing then to stop you from duplicating, as best you can, the lines in the bitmap etc using CC2, saving the result, and going to cc3 to do yet more in the map, once you've done what needed to be done in the first place.

OTOH, if the bitmap is going to form an integral part of your new map in cc, then you're back to square one if you then try to open it in cc3, as the link will no longer be there.

I'm trying to re-instate my currently missing original question to the PF forums. As I've managed to embed images before into cc2 Pro, albeit mono rather than colour images, I'm assuming that the bitmap size limitation is a filesize problem, rather than a strictly physical dimentions problem.

I'll update as I know more.
 
Yep, downloaded and found it; Thanks :)

However, it says nothing about there being any limit to filesize on import. I've got a request for clarification on this problem over at the ProFantasy Forums.

Update once I know.
 
Never mind, finally happened upon the right combination!

Ever-so-slightly processed result below...

H_and_E_Hnaar_map.gif


Processing was to maintain alignment with other images on the maps page of the new website.

Example:
hnaar-gaia.gif


So, all I have to do now is go in, tidy up the map, and voaila - No more worries over having to mess with Fireworks and hours of processing using four different packages each time I want a map - WHOOPEEE! :)

I am about to gear up and start using CC3 CC as well ... I
 
Finally picked up Cosmographer over the weekend. Spent a snowy Monday at home with the kids fiddling around with it, and the MGT subsector design sequence. Fun stuff.
 
Never used CAD before. Just got CC3 and I want to tear my eyes out. It is impossible, impenetrable and I've just spent 3 hours trying to open a template ready for drawing. For pity's sake!

I feel so impotent! All I want is to open up a template, stick on grids, a hull, then open up the different deck sheets to draw on. Add doors, lifts, consoles engines and some labels and finish.

The CC3 Cosmographer instructions for drawing a deckplan are poorly written, I can't follow them.

Arrgh. When I did manage to open a template and stick in a grid square (30 mins ago), the grid overlapped the template by a few mm, and my ship name disappeared forever once I'd touched the slider at the side of the screen. Oh mercy.

I'm depressed because I bought CC3 and Cosmographer on an impulse -and now I'm really regretting it.

Any help from fellow Traveller players would be gratefully received! Before I throw my laptop out the window!
 
Never used CAD before. Just got CC3 and I want to tear my eyes out. It is impossible, impenetrable and I've just spent 3 hours trying to open a template ready for drawing. For pity's sake!
I have CAD experience, and I find it daunting. So I really feel sorry for you.

I feel so impotent! All I want is to open up a template, stick on grids, a hull, then open up the different deck sheets to draw on. Add doors, lifts, consoles engines and some labels and finish.
Sounds easy enough...

The CC3 Cosmographer instructions for drawing a deckplan are poorly written, I can't follow them.
Have you downloaded all of the manuals from their site? I have, but haven't gotten around to looking at them. My assumption is that they are more detailed instructions than the sketchy little booklets that come with the disk.

Arrgh. When I did manage to open a template and stick in a grid square (30 mins ago), the grid overlapped the template by a few mm, and my ship name disappeared forever once I'd touched the slider at the side of the screen. Oh mercy.
I'm not certain, but it sounds like a layers thing. Think of each design element you place as being on it's own little transparency sheet (remember overhead projectors?). Sometimes stuff on top of other stuff will block stuff out. You can get around that by moving these layers around, or possibly by changing one of the overprinting layers into a percentage screen, allowing it to be somewhat transparent.

I'm depressed because I bought CC3 and Cosmographer on an impulse -and now I'm really regretting it.
Don't give up the ship!

Any help from fellow Traveller players would be gratefully received! Before I throw my laptop out the window!
Another thing you should do, sit down and watch all of the tutorial videos on Youtube. Watch these:
http://www.youtube.com/user/joesweeney88
Then watch them again and try following along with him on your CC3.

Best of luck!
 
Some basics:

aside from the actual drawing tools, most things work by a three stage process:

1 select tool
2 select what you're using it on; keep selecting until everything you want to affect is selected.
3 tell it "do it", which may be a right click or an enter.

4 is not always present: fill in the details for the command in the pop-up window.

Note the sequence. In most window environments, it's click on thing, then select action, or select tool, then click on thing which gets hit by tool immediately.

Not all commands immediately show; after any significant command, ctrl-r redraws are a good thing.


In the case of the drawing tools, it's:
select tool
place points
right click to finish
 
Mithras
First, download the CC3 manuals from ProFantasy's website and invest the hour or two in time to read them. After that open both the manual and CC3 and follow along. Ravells a memeber of this board is the founder of the cartographers guild. There are numerous talented people that use a variety of drawing software, including CC3, that are willing to help others get the most out of their work.
 
Thanks for the responses, I wasn't aware there were online manuals. Give me instructions, and I am fine, no matter how detailed.

That fills me with hope. I'll check them out tonight.

Its all you guys with your damn super smart deckplans that got me into this! :)
 
Mithras the manuals are available through your registration page after you register the product with ProFantasy. IIRC it's a pdf of several megabytes.

Good luck.
 
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