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Far Frontiers Sector

Imperials have always played a role in the Far Frontiers sector but it is akin to the role of 19th century America in Africa. Too late to make the scamble for colonies save in Liberia but enough of economic presence to begin to make its presence felt.

Similarly, the Imperium has funding "freedom fighters" in Zhodani Client States in an attempt to splinter each world, one world at a time forcing them into a Pocket Empire status --> Non Aligned --> Imperial Client State --> Candidate Member state though a process of realpolitik expected to take decades, if not centuries. Naturally, the Zhodani take a similar long view, although, they are troubled by reports they have been hearing from the Core...
 
Imperials have always played a role in the Far Frontiers sector but it is akin to the role of 19th century America in Africa. Too late to make the scamble for colonies save in Liberia but enough of economic presence to begin to make its presence felt.

Similarly, the Imperium has funding "freedom fighters" in Zhodani Client States in an attempt to splinter each world, one world at a time forcing them into a Pocket Empire status --> Non Aligned --> Imperial Client State --> Candidate Member state though a process of realpolitik expected to take decades, if not centuries. Naturally, the Zhodani take a similar long view, although, they are troubled by reports they have been hearing from the Core...

is that canon or IMTU ?
 
I was under the impression that all of Far Frontiers was released...

Detsiaiem (A) and Ienji (B) subsectors in TC #5 (RT).
Naianch (C), Qiedrkia (D) and Pia (E) subsectors in TC #6 (RT).
Additional library data in TC #7 (RT).
Retan (F), Dalesabandagh (G), and Zezhpae (H) subsectors in TC #8 (RT)
Antedeluvia (I) and Alsas (J) subsectors in TC #2 (RT).
Taemerlyk (K), Vulvek (L) and Wulfek (M) subsectors in TC #3 (RT).
Cabala (N), Jungleblut (O) and Mnemosyne (P) subsectors in TC #4 (RT).

Jungleblut (O) subsector and library data in Trail of the Sky Raiders (CT).
Subsectors I through P appeared in Ares Special Edition #2 (CT).

So, everything is in the Traveller Chronicle... right?
 
is that canon or IMTU ?

I think you mean YTU, as I have no idea what is in your Traveller Universe...

It is extrapolated from the FASA products and given that the FASA products are going to get their own CD ROM (one day), I suppose they are quasi canon.

That auction is so vague as to be almost criminal.

I bought this item in the past and did not find terribly useful as it more a collection of campaign notes by Dale. A polished finished product would be nice based on some of the SPI Ares stuff and work of the Keith bros. But, I think that can wait until we get the OGL. And, the OGL will mean only more quasi canon, so get used to it boyz, for it is going to be a rocky ride.
 
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I bought this item in the past and did not find terribly useful as it more a collection of campaign notes by Dale. A polished finished product would be nice based on some of the SPI Ares stuff and work of the Keith bros. But, I think that can wait until we get the OGL. And, the OGL will mean only more quasi canon, so get used to it boyz, for it is going to be a rocky ride.

I had a feeling that's what this was. I have the Ares article, most of the FASA books, and all of the TTCs (since I was writing for it).

Yes, the OGL really only lends the faint cachet of "permission to operate" to the fan sites, which (thanks to Marc's liberal policies) *they already had*. The stamp of "Canon" will still not be any more common or easy to acquire than before. On the plus side, Traveller material will appear in Signs & Portents, but the canonicity will still be a wishy-washy thing.

The right and ability to function commercially using the Third Imperium setting will probably still require a paid license, and since the Mongoose announcement says all of those except the SJG arrangement will not be renewed, I see things getting worse, not better.
 
I was under the impression that all of Far Frontiers was released...

Detsiaiem (A) and Ienji (B) subsectors in TC #5 (RT).
Naianch (C), Qiedrkia (D) and Pia (E) subsectors in TC #6 (RT).
Additional library data in TC #7 (RT).
Retan (F), Dalesabandagh (G), and Zezhpae (H) subsectors in TC #8 (RT)
Antedeluvia (I) and Alsas (J) subsectors in TC #2 (RT).
Taemerlyk (K), Vulvek (L) and Wulfek (M) subsectors in TC #3 (RT).
Cabala (N), Jungleblut (O) and Mnemosyne (P) subsectors in TC #4 (RT).

Jungleblut (O) subsector and library data in Trail of the Sky Raiders (CT).
Subsectors I through P appeared in Ares Special Edition #2 (CT).

So, everything is in the Traveller Chronicle... right?

Aside from some specific library data in the various FASA books, this is the case. Note that "Ordeal by Eshaar" and "Rescue on Galatea" are also set in the rimward half of the sector. FASA managed to present at least two subsectors in their adventures in the area.

The TTC articles for Dale's half were taken from the expanded version of his writeup, so everything he had written in useful form (at the time) should be in TTC 2-4. Similarly, all of my material was presented in TTC 5-8.
 
Was any kind of historical writeup done on the sector or it's subsectors ?

I've been thinking about doing a set of adventures back before everything was "locked up" in terms of solid polities.
 
As my big post above suggests, the coreward half is basically stateless and volatile. There have been a few short-lived "empires" in the Dent, but the damage they wrought in subjugation and fighting each other is one of the reasons the Zhodani work to keep empire building from happening again.

The mash of opposed client states seen in the rimward half is a phenomonon of the last 3-400 years. Imperial exploration, internal strife and seccesion, Zhodani border securing operations, and the machinations of states further rimward* have made the political history of rimward Afachtiabr rather complex and chaotic since then.

The first state in the area was actually the Protectorate, formed in 536. The rest of the rimward half of the sector didn't really begin polity-forming until around 700. That's your looked-for period of Imperial exploration prior to state building, as the majority populace will be Vlazhdumecta "primitives".**

It is worth noting that Dale paints a somewhat different picture of the Vlazhdumecta than either the Yiklerzdanzh Project or I did. Looking at the differences, I can put most of them down to the absence of absorption efforts in Yiklerzdanzh compared to Afachtiabr, and the infusion of a violent streak with the arrival of the Sky Raiders. The Vlazhdumecta with some ambition migrated towards Yiklerzdanzh and likely repelled the Zhodani through sheer gumption. That history is elsewhere.

The Vlazhdumecta of Afachtiabr were more a case of mistakes made in the name of procedure. The Zhodani were probably waiting for the former colonies to either die out or regress so far that they would be overwhelmed by Zhodani cultural absorption. The regression occured, but not before a mad wave of last ditch recolonization put Vlazhdumecta colonies on every world that could support them. The folklore was also in place to make sure that every colony knew exactly why this was taking place. The fatalism of abandonment that overtook the colonies further rimward never infected the Dent, and the combination of superstition and a deep-seated racial tendency towards commerce (their "empire" had been primarily commercial, not military) ensured that the Zhodani who arrived later couldn't come up with "the right price" to make the Dent Vlazhdumecta accept cultural absorption.

What made the Imperial incursions in the rimward half of the sector go more smoothly than Zhodani attempts was the absence of cultural imperialism inherent to the Third Imperium's basic philosophy, and the influx of wealth their arrival brought to the "abandoned". Most Vlazdumecta in the client states area are relegated to the status of second-class citizen, but most also just don't care, since their lives are still better than they were before the Imperials arrived. Were I to speculate, I'd say the client states will someday get quite a shock when the local Vlazhdumecta get their collective ambition back.

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* the next sector rimward is The Vanguard Reach, an area originally developed (along with The Beyond, rim-trailing of Afachtiabr) in a rather wild fashion by Paranoia Press early in the CT days. The Beyond was publicly de-canonized by a dotmap in DGP's "Solomani & Aslan", but the Vanguard Reach remains a heady place of improbably high TLs, power politics, ruinous wars, wierd aliens, and a long history. None of it is Canon at this point, and the last time I spoke to Chuck Kallenbach (the original author) his map of the Vanguard Reach slopped over into Afachtiabr in ways that were utterly incompatible with Dale's work. I still regard the Vanguard Reach as a region similar to Chuck's version, just more Canon-compatible.

** whups! Seems Dale fooled me. The Zelphic Primacy was formed in Imperial year 58, but was alone until the Protectorate formed five centuries later.
 
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Was any kind of historical writeup done on the sector or it's subsectors ?

To answer the question more specifically, yes, both Dale and I did historical work. Both sets of work are in the TTC articles. Most of Dale's general history is in #2, while mine is, IIRC, mostly in #7 (I can only find part of my collection at the moment).
 
Did your write-ups go into detail on any of the sector-wide companies, as far as history ? Such as GENEM or Faraday ? Or did you keep it far more abstract ?

I have to think the owners of the various IPs from the Classic Traveller era would want to approach MWM about re-releasing their IP on CD rom thru this site (like the Traveller Chronicle). Unless most just don't care. I certainly don't know the industry like you guys, and while it's nice that some stuff is collectable, they're really not making any more $$ on it...unless they're the ones holding the auctions :D

oh, well, I'm waiting for FASA and T4 now.
 
Dale's material makes the statement that "Far Frontiers" as a label really only applies to the rimward half of the sector, by the way. Probably being an "in game" attitude amongst the client states, since the coreward half is so different.

Dale did a fair amount of Library Data, which is spread across the three issues of TTC his half of the sector are in, but it focuses on the client states themselves. Only the Allarton Corporation is mentioned, and I don't recall if that is an Imperial corporation or meant to be local.

I spent much of my efforts on general history. I found the rest of my collection and have re-read my own articles for the first time in a while (they were written in 1994...). Suffice to say the history is a bit more complex than I've posted above, and the former Sky Raiders are actually a lot more common than I'd recalled. To the point where the actual nickname for the "dent" amongst the Zhodani is "The Raider's Blight". I should probably figure out what that translates to in Zdetl, since I'm supposedly an expert. :D
 
I think one of the maps I saw the top half was all red, indicating Zhodani territory. I can't recall if it was only the top 4 subsectors or 8.

That's part of the reason, I'm thinking of doing something earlier in the sector's history, or at least one of the subsectors, so that the Zhodani are newcomers still, and they're just making their presence known. I'd have to know the history of Genem and Faraday, since they seem to be major players and would/should have a multi-century history (or more).

I'm toying with the idea that Genem steals from the Sky Raiders using Faraday to engineer massive planetoids with sublight engines to move them into empty hexes to use as dark-body secret bases for them as they try to grab control of certain subsectors. Then possibly a Genem-Faraday breakup and Faraday offering to help the Zhodani in certain ways.

Both Genem and Faraday seem to be high enough up the TL foodchain, that I'm not sure how much they can offer the Zhodani or vice-versa. Of course I can engineer gaps to fit as needed.

Anyway I think I've got some decent seeds for this to happen, and I've got plenty of time to sew some more.

An alternative might be to spin out my own Far Frontiers and tailor it a bit more to fit my own ideas. Nothing lost there and it could spark ideas for working with canon, if it ever sees the light of day.
 
GypsyComet -- what can you tell us about a couple of worlds I noticed on the Traveller map; namely "Thieves World" and "Ghost" ...anything special or interesting about them.

Thieves World is in the Inverness subsector and Ghost is in Lassana subsector.

Or ignoring my random shots, any worlds in particular you find interesting and can tell us about ?
 
To answer the question more specifically, yes, both Dale and I did historical work. Both sets of work are in the TTC articles. Most of Dale's general history is in #2, while mine is, IIRC, mostly in #7 (I can only find part of my collection at the moment).

Well, I lucked out on www.abebooks.com last night and came across
a bookseller who had a number of Traveller items

One of which was The Traveller Chronicle #7 and Milieu-Zero so I grabbed them.

So in a few I'll be able to see just what you were up to.

Traveller Chronicle 7

A Rock Called Jade by Andy Lilly ... pg 3
The Intendant by Gregory P. Lee ... pg 10
Aikhiy by Guy Garnett ... pg 16
A Pilot's Guide to the Caledon Subsector by J. Andrew Keith ... pg 26
Weapon's Locker by Guy Garnett ... pg 42
Far Frontiers by James Kundert ... pg 44

I'm also intersted in the bold items above.

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GypsyComet -- what can you tell us about a couple of worlds I noticed on the Traveller map; namely "Thieves World" and "Ghost" ...anything special or interesting about them.

Thieves World is in the Inverness subsector and Ghost is in Lassana subsector.

Thieves World may be FASA's chosen location for the Travellerised version of that shared world project. The boxed set for Thieves World published by Chaosium many years ago was written collectively by many of the game companies of the day, including GDW. One of the scenarios for using Thieves World was as a remote world where psionics developed into "magic" to the point where the world feels like a fantasy throwback. TL2 and 3 power politics at their best...

No idea about Ghost.
 
I did flesh out both Far Frontiers & Foreven sectors rimward to flush out my Beyond campaign. Had a partial history & political online since some of my Beyond/Vanguard Reaches states had spillover to those sectors. So far though I've only uploaded to my site just a few system data in my Other Sectors section.
 
ShadowSand Info

The ShadowSand system is pretty neat idea, though I was a bit flustered to find it was a "mapped and known" system. I'd been hoping for something super-secret done by GENEM, but I suppose that's what IMTU is for.

Anyone know the history of ShadowSand -- or even care to speculate about it YTU ?

From the FASA - Rescue on Galatea, it looks like the Protectorate handled security, obviously during the rescue.

Care to comment about YTU version ?


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