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[French Traveller] Sample art

Agreed with most of the comments here. They're nice pictures, but they're not Traveller.

Traveller is more "realistic". Take a look a Deitrick's art in the old CT books. It always had this realistic flavor to it.

Compare the armor you see in pic #1 above to Deitrick's wounded soldier on page 19 of the Traveller Book or the soldier with the cloth armor and rifle grenade on page 102.

Traveller art needs more realism. Think more of the weapons, equipment, vehicles, and ships in ALIENS rather than their counterparts in the movie THE FIFTH ELEMENT.
 
Agreed with most of the comments here. They're nice pictures, but they're not Traveller.

Traveller is more "realistic". Take a look a Deitrick's art in the old CT books. It always had this realistic flavor to it.

Compare the armor you see in pic #1 above to Deitrick's wounded soldier on page 19 of the Traveller Book or the soldier with the cloth armor and rifle grenade on page 102.

Traveller art needs more realism. Think more of the weapons, equipment, vehicles, and ships in ALIENS rather than their counterparts in the movie THE FIFTH ELEMENT.
 
Originally posted by Olschoolgamer:
Oddly enough the only problem I have with the last one, the gentleman sitting in the chair, is that he is wearing a tie. For some reason I don't consider ties to be very Traveller.
The tie, it's a Solmani tribal thing. ;)
 
Originally posted by Olschoolgamer:
Oddly enough the only problem I have with the last one, the gentleman sitting in the chair, is that he is wearing a tie. For some reason I don't consider ties to be very Traveller.
The tie, it's a Solmani tribal thing. ;)
 
Originally posted by Supplement Four:
Traveller is more "realistic". Take a look a Deitrick's art in the old CT books. It always had this realistic flavor to it.
Well, the Traveller Book also has some unrealistic, yet cool, art (from Donna Barr, Paul Jacquays ...) and other CT books also have som no-quite realistic art too (such as Bryan Gibson stuff in Spinward Marches Campaign and Alien Module Hivers).

The French book will have some full-page art from Jeremy Masson (the adventurers & soldiers pictures above) and Laurent Sillau, and small pictures will include old art mostly from WH Keith and Dave Deitrick, and new art from Sebastien Mauroy (about 50% / 50%).
 
Originally posted by Supplement Four:
Traveller is more "realistic". Take a look a Deitrick's art in the old CT books. It always had this realistic flavor to it.
Well, the Traveller Book also has some unrealistic, yet cool, art (from Donna Barr, Paul Jacquays ...) and other CT books also have som no-quite realistic art too (such as Bryan Gibson stuff in Spinward Marches Campaign and Alien Module Hivers).

The French book will have some full-page art from Jeremy Masson (the adventurers & soldiers pictures above) and Laurent Sillau, and small pictures will include old art mostly from WH Keith and Dave Deitrick, and new art from Sebastien Mauroy (about 50% / 50%).
 
Originally posted by philippe tromeur:
Well, the Traveller Book also has some unrealistic, yet cool, art...
Phillipe,

I got savaged for expressing my dislike of Chris Foss' work in Terran Trade Authority and I'll most likely be savaged for expressing my opinion here too.

There's mildly unrealistic; such as Gibson's "Big Head 'Toon Style" and then there is the over-the-top stuff you shared with us. This crap looks like poorly imitated Japanese anime with a dose of Asterix thrown in.

The two group scenes come the closest the Traveller - and that isn't saying much - as another poster suugested, the rest might as well be in some generic superhero RPG booklet.

Superheroes is something Traveller has never been about. That's what set it apart from those other RPGs in the late 70s and early 80s: the PCs were not overly powerful combat monsters who could wade through an ocean of NPC blood without a scratch.

As for a "superheroic psionic charecter", that's not how psionics work in Traveller. Or least that's not how psionics used to work before the game was swallowed by the WOTC-d20-Borg Collective.

YMMV.


Have fun,
Bill
 
Originally posted by philippe tromeur:
Well, the Traveller Book also has some unrealistic, yet cool, art...
Phillipe,

I got savaged for expressing my dislike of Chris Foss' work in Terran Trade Authority and I'll most likely be savaged for expressing my opinion here too.

There's mildly unrealistic; such as Gibson's "Big Head 'Toon Style" and then there is the over-the-top stuff you shared with us. This crap looks like poorly imitated Japanese anime with a dose of Asterix thrown in.

The two group scenes come the closest the Traveller - and that isn't saying much - as another poster suugested, the rest might as well be in some generic superhero RPG booklet.

Superheroes is something Traveller has never been about. That's what set it apart from those other RPGs in the late 70s and early 80s: the PCs were not overly powerful combat monsters who could wade through an ocean of NPC blood without a scratch.

As for a "superheroic psionic charecter", that's not how psionics work in Traveller. Or least that's not how psionics used to work before the game was swallowed by the WOTC-d20-Borg Collective.

YMMV.


Have fun,
Bill
 
Originally posted by Bill Cameron:
As for a "superheroic psionic charecter", that's not how psionics work in Traveller. Or least that's not how psionics used to work before the game was swallowed by the WOTC-d20-Borg Collective.
Do I detect some negative psychic energy here?
. . . WOTC-d20-Borg Collective . . . now that's funny.
 
Originally posted by Bill Cameron:
As for a "superheroic psionic charecter", that's not how psionics work in Traveller. Or least that's not how psionics used to work before the game was swallowed by the WOTC-d20-Borg Collective.
Do I detect some negative psychic energy here?
. . . WOTC-d20-Borg Collective . . . now that's funny.
 
Originally posted by Supplement Four:
Traveller art needs more realism. Think more of the weapons, equipment, vehicles, and ships in ALIENS rather than their counterparts in the movie THE FIFTH ELEMENT.
Hmmm.

I really like the look of The Fifth Element, actually - no ZF-1s IMTU perhaps, but the costumes and many of the interiors (especially Dallas' apartment and the Fhloston Paradise hotel) are perfect for high-tech cities and planets, IMHO.

I like the gritty look of the Alien movies and Outland, of course, but a little Star Wars and Fifth Element sneak in there as well.

Now Star Trek...no, no, no.

Oh, and I like the first three pics in this thread well enough, but the last two not so much.
 
Originally posted by Supplement Four:
Traveller art needs more realism. Think more of the weapons, equipment, vehicles, and ships in ALIENS rather than their counterparts in the movie THE FIFTH ELEMENT.
Hmmm.

I really like the look of The Fifth Element, actually - no ZF-1s IMTU perhaps, but the costumes and many of the interiors (especially Dallas' apartment and the Fhloston Paradise hotel) are perfect for high-tech cities and planets, IMHO.

I like the gritty look of the Alien movies and Outland, of course, but a little Star Wars and Fifth Element sneak in there as well.

Now Star Trek...no, no, no.

Oh, and I like the first three pics in this thread well enough, but the last two not so much.
 
I think the art looks great. I also think the notion that the only "true" TRAVELLER looking art is that drawn by David Detrick and William H. Keith is nonsense. I for one would like to see other ideas of how the TRAVELLER Universe looks. After all, the Imperium is a very large place so why should everyone dress the same everywhere when that isn't even true on Earth today.
 
I think the art looks great. I also think the notion that the only "true" TRAVELLER looking art is that drawn by David Detrick and William H. Keith is nonsense. I for one would like to see other ideas of how the TRAVELLER Universe looks. After all, the Imperium is a very large place so why should everyone dress the same everywhere when that isn't even true on Earth today.
 
Having just finished the Alien Quadrilogy DVD collection, including all the 'behind the scenes' stuff, I can honestly say that Traveller to me is reflected best in the hyper-realistic 'used future' look of the universe of Alien... at least for the 'average' humans.

Like in Alien, the other species can have their own looks, etc., but I recall my most vivid Traveller experiences as being visually reminiscent of Alien.
 
Having just finished the Alien Quadrilogy DVD collection, including all the 'behind the scenes' stuff, I can honestly say that Traveller to me is reflected best in the hyper-realistic 'used future' look of the universe of Alien... at least for the 'average' humans.

Like in Alien, the other species can have their own looks, etc., but I recall my most vivid Traveller experiences as being visually reminiscent of Alien.
 
Whereas, I think that the film Serenity does it best, has elements of cowtowns (backward frontier regions where I can easily see Outland, Alien & Aliens), High Tech Space Stations (B5, DS9, 2001), High Tech worlds (Blade Runner, Garden utopias of Star Trek, Coruscant). Otherwise, there is no single vision that I have every world I steal from everything that I can get my hands on and do my best to communicate that to the players.
 
Whereas, I think that the film Serenity does it best, has elements of cowtowns (backward frontier regions where I can easily see Outland, Alien & Aliens), High Tech Space Stations (B5, DS9, 2001), High Tech worlds (Blade Runner, Garden utopias of Star Trek, Coruscant). Otherwise, there is no single vision that I have every world I steal from everything that I can get my hands on and do my best to communicate that to the players.
 
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