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Hand Computer

"...a sensor-embedded glove that allows the soldier to easily view and navigate digital maps, activate radio communications, and send commands without having to take his hand off his weapon."

Does the article mention exactly how that works? I'm picturing pulling the trigger of my weapon and up pops a confirm yes/no selection in my hud for inbound air-support, scrambling to click "no" my thumb switches my weapon safety on and the weapon doesn't fire, hurrying to switch the safety back to fire the glove activates my radio mike and broadcasts my curses at the stupid technology...
 
Does the article mention exactly how that works? I'm picturing pulling the trigger of my weapon and up pops a confirm yes/no selection in my hud for inbound air-support, scrambling to click "no" my thumb switches my weapon safety on and the weapon doesn't fire, hurrying to switch the safety back to fire the glove activates my radio mike and broadcasts my curses at the stupid technology...

The article did explain how it worked, and the stuff it was designed to do was limited on purpose to prevent that sort of informational overkill. And as per another thread somewhere, military spec stuff has to handle a lot more abuse, so a gaming power glove would not work long-term due to environmental conditions. Imagine a civilian Hummer on the field: sure, it's cheaper, but since you go through 20x as many, the net cost (and this does not include the human cost [which is incalculable]) is higher.
 
The article did explain how it worked, and the stuff it was designed to do was limited on purpose to prevent that sort of informational overkill. And as per another thread somewhere, military spec stuff has to handle a lot more abuse, so a gaming power glove would not work long-term due to environmental conditions. Imagine a civilian Hummer on the field: sure, it's cheaper, but since you go through 20x as many, the net cost (and this does not include the human cost [which is incalculable]) is higher.

It's good to hear they've learned the info overload lesson.

But I have seen reports of soldiers buying (out of their own pocket) some commo gear iirc (microphone or cord or some part) to replace issued gear because the issued gear was not suited to the conditions. Can't recall the specifics, it was a while ago Gulf War One maybe, or a bit after. It's not always the case of more expensive means better.

No doubt a Wii glove wouldn't cut it in the field, besides not being able to use a weapon while wearing one it just doesn't look very comfortable. It was more meant as humour, but tech does get replaced in some circumstances. Or should be. I recall seeing a want ad on the internet a few years ago posted by some Navy techs. They needed old computers for parts to keep their systems running since the government wasn't replacing or updating it. I think it was just inventory systems for a PX or something, but still, it seemed kind of disturbing that any part of the US military would still be using and reliant on (iirc) 386s and DOS1 for anything. Of course they are probably far more reliable than the newer stuff and the latest OS.
 
How about the IBM 360?

from Wiki-waki:
"The IBM System/360 (S/360) is a mainframe computer system family announced by IBM on April 7, 1964.
...
IBM initially announced a family of six computers and forty common peripherals. IBM actually delivered fourteen models, including rare one-off models for NASA.
...
All System/360 models were withdrawn from marketing by the end of 1977."

However...
"Special radiation-hardened and otherwise somewhat modified S/360s, in the form of the System/4 Pi avionics computer, are used in several fighter and bomber jet aircraft. In the full 32-bit AP-101 version, 4 Pi machines are used as the replicated computing nodes of the fault-tolerant Space Shuttle computer system (in five nodes)."

From personal experience... the AN/ASQ-133 radar processing/targeting/weapons control computer in the A-6E (introduced in 1971) was a re-packaged IBM 360. This computer was still flying in the A-6E when the type was retired in February 1997... and was controlling laser-guided weapons, etc.
 
That might have been the one I was (almost) recalling BlackBat, sounds about right time wise though I don't recall the radiation hardening aspect.
 
The military called it "EMP hardening" (the USN & USMC required it for all shipboard aircraft, since they fly in much closer proximity to high-energy emitters [ship's radars, etc] than USAF/USA aircraft).

Only NASA called it "radiation hardening"... same thing, really, it prevents external sources from introducing electrical energy into the electronic/electrical systems.



An example is the US Army UH-60 that crashed in Germany in the late 1980s or early 1990s... it's flight computer "crashed" after flying too close to a civilian radio broadcast tower. The Army then spent lots of money to retrofit their helos with "hardened" systems... derived from the production-standard USN SH-60 system.
 
Like this?

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This isn't too far away. The projected keyboard is here:

Virtual Keyboard

And the projected video screen is here/on it's way:

Video Projector for you phone

Handheld Projector

Handheld video projector
 
Lots of rumors of a larger iPhone platform, or, moreso perhaps, a larger iPod Touch platform. Basically something along the lines of the Nokia internet tablets, but running the iPhone platform.

Effectively more a portable infotainment system, due to it's restricted input capabilities. (Notably it's not a spectacular text input device with it on screen keyboard.)

But it has enough capability for the random email, and for surfing the web with ease.

Whether the new device would have a phone built in to it is a question.

On the one hand, it should, because one of the real benefits of the iPhone is (mostly) ubiquitous connectivity, and with 3G it will be even faster. It can rely on WiFi, but that's just not the same as the "everywhere" nature of the cell systems (with "everywhere" being loosely defined).

On the other, it will likely be "too big" as a phone, unless you use it soley through a remote headset.

What we have learned, though, as we fight user interface and form factor issues, is that the power of the handheld device is not self-contained, but in it's connectivity to the larger grid.

In association with that, there's less necessity for a handheld computer to be performant. Rather, the demand is that the computer have a fast connection to a fast computer, rather than the handheld itself be powerful.

The primary driver for faster handhelds is, as ever, games and UI experience. A faster computer will be able to voice recognition, perhaps, better than a slow computer.

Finally, for most consumers, the home computer has "topped out", save for the graphics card if you're a gamer. I have a Mac Pro, and I sincerely hope to not have to replace it for 10 years. My wife has a 5 year old Mac iBook, which is just marching along. Only thing we do to that is upgrade Firefox.

Meanwhile, we're pushing the envelope on performance, battery life and form factor in the handheld space.

The Asus EEE mini notebooks on the one hand, and the iPhone, "smart phone" platform on the other.
 
...In association with that, there's less necessity for a handheld computer to be performant. Rather, the demand is that the computer have a fast connection to a fast computer, rather than the handheld itself be powerful...

Unless you are out of range: in Traveller, the system may not even support whatever protocols your device has (IMTU Imperial worlds and starports do have a standard protocol/wireless network system; but outside of that you are probably out of luck). I do have links with the starship but the range is limited. So the performance issue is important in Traveller, or at least IMTU. I pack as much as I can in there for a stand-alone system (now there are system dependent devices, such as the cargo master's unit which links directly to the ships computers for tracking/loading/unloading cargo, but it is a specific purpose type of thing with a variety of input technologies in use [RFID, optical scanners, that sort of thing].

YRMV (Your Range May Vary)....
 
I have been useing handhelds for severel years and while the technology used in them
has hit plataues from time to time, in general they tend to have the processing power of a desktop PC of around a decade before.

Extrapolateing foreward from what is available today, a third imperium era handheld computer should have terabytes of storage and processing power equivalent to a early 21st century supercomputer. (at least)
Assuming you had the right cabled or wireless interfaces, you should be able to run an entire starship from a standard handheld.

On the other hand, canon third imperium electronincs technology as listed in the equptment lists of the various rule books seems suprisingly primitive to me.

IMTU I would have a handheld be several times more powerful than a 2008 desktop PC. I would expect a handheld to be the standard computer that most people use. They would often be connected to larger displays and interface devices of course.

BTW this post was made from an iPhone.
 
I have to agree with evirskeen

I bought a Z-1000 hand held one of the first that had touch screen and hand writting recongzing capacity. about a 386 in power
Paid $800 for it in '90
Current most common Cell phones (as of today) are about at least pentinum power.
Then there are the special ones that like evirskeen mentioned are better in pocessing than some table top computers
Look at the price of laptops dropping every year.

So, in Traveller terms, I still stand behind the idea (IMO) that the computers are so big because they need protection from space, particularly Jump Space AND that the weight includes lots of sensors, links and such.

Dave Chase
 
I bought a Z-1000 hand held one of the first that had touch screen and hand writting recongzing capacity. about a 386 in power
Paid $800 for it in '90
Current most common Cell phones (as of today) are about at least pentinum power.
Then there are the special ones that like evirskeen mentioned are better in pocessing than some table top computers
Look at the price of laptops dropping every year.

So, in Traveller terms, I still stand behind the idea (IMO) that the computers are so big because they need protection from space, particularly Jump Space AND that the weight includes lots of sensors, links and such.

Dave Chase


Unless a 'model/1' = CRAY1 (100+Megaflops) and a 'model/2' = Blue Gene (100+Teraflops).
When do you expect a handheld computer to reach the computing capacity of a CRAY? Surely even a SOTA handheld isn't there yet.
(Although TL 12 does seem too long a wait.)
 
I always remember the true story of the HP-41 calculators taken up on the Space Shuttle, which at the time had more processing power than the shuttles own computers, and which had backup programs in them (though never needed) in case of the main computer failing.

http://updatecenter.britannica.com/art?assemblyId=87890&type=A

:D
I like those stories too.
For that reason (IMTU) I have no problem with a hand computer controling a small craft. I like the mental image of a pilot strapping in, connecting a data cable from the handcomp (strapped to his pants leg) to the port on the dashboard, and watching his HUD for the system to boot up so he can liftoff.

But these STARHIP Computers aim lasers at a target 15 cm wide and 100,000 km away, traveling at 0.2C and accelerating/dodging at 6G+. Even a pentuium processor might need some help. :)

And we havn't even discussed the calculations to navigate n-Dimensional alternate time-space. :)
 
The iPhone (arguably one of the most powerful "handhelds" on the market, though clearly there are some very powerful "larger than handhelds" out there, the mini internet tablets for example) was benchmarked at 7.7MFlops. A Cray-1 is 100MFlops (I think).

I do not know if the processor has the FP unit. I'd like to think that it must to get the numbers it does.

Anyway, just a hat pin on the map of "State of the Art". As always, the problems today are not CPU horsepower, but rather battery life and heat.
 
Indeed... how much of that computer tonnage is actually temperature control and power-regulation/filtering equipment (and the battery back-up/UPS)?

The Cray-1: "All of this high-power circuitry generates considerable heat, and as always Cray's designers spent as much effort on the refrigeration system as the rest of the mechanical design. In this case each circuit board was paired with a second, placed back to back with a sheet of copper between them. The copper sheet conducted heat to the edges of the cage, where liquid freon running in pipes drew it away to the cooling unit below the machine. The first Cray-1 was delayed six months due to problems in the cooling system; lubricant that is normally mixed with the freon to keep the compressor running would leak through the seals and eventually coat the boards with oil until they shorted out. New welding techniques had to be used to properly seal the tubing."



Many of the newest Cray supercomputers still use liquid cooling systems.
 
There was a series on the discovery channel of "next stuff" and one of hte things they wore was a computer glove. On your left hand you'd open it and a monitor would pop up in the air above your hand, with your right hand you'd tap "buttons" and use your voice to control it.

Anyone seen this?
 
Actually with current Tech one could build a very powerful portable IF one is willing to leave the keyboard/screen/processor block behind and thing multi-part system.

HeadUpDisplays with decend resolutions exists and "Video over WiFi" also works for presentations and similar speeds (Not for games IIRC)

Flexible keyboards and/or non-physical keybords (i.e Laserkey) also exists

Use a belt-mounted processor/power unit and external I/O units and you can pack a current model EEE901 (5-10 times the power of a Nokia Tablet) in a very portable "hands free" package.
 
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