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(hypothetical) What would you ask Dave Nilsen?

Just wanted to drop a line on this thread to say THANK YOU, Dave, for taking the time to chat with all of us, and to provide insight to what was happening "behind the curtain". I have a lot deeper understanding of TNE now thanks to you, and I want you to know that I appreciate the time you've spent on this.
 
Originally posted by doomhunk:

Dave Nilsen's writing style - I enjoyed the humour and the playfulness. Certainly it read smoothly, and lacked the dryness of earlier LBBs. Significant NPCs began coming to life during the MT era and this expanded in the TNE books. Personalities of the RC was a great game-aid.
I really liked the NPCs in TNE, and the little details, like 'Who Me' Ritter, and his quote "Don't piss me off, man. I used to be a Lieutenant Commander".
 
Mr. Nilsen,

Thank you for kind reply to my last post. I'm glad that I was able to share Bari Stafford's story with you.

Now, seeing that floor is open to further questions (you just had to know this was coming!), I have another regarding the Empress Wave.

My question has to do with the timing of the Wave. I re-read your original posts here about the Wave and haven't found an answer. (It may be in there and I'm too thick to find it!)

Consider what we've been told about the Empress Wave and the astrography of the OTU:

- The Wave is descibed as a lightspeed wave front which is travelling in a direction from the Core.
- Avery departs into what had been the Extents with a fleet of jump ships knowing he can contact the Wave's front before it contacts the old Imperial border around 1200.
- The Wave is effecting the Consulate by 1119, as the damaged vessels spotted by Domain of Deneb forces in the Jewell Subsector reveal.
- The Consulate extends nearly two entire sectors closer to the Core than the Imperium.
- The Zhodani Core Exploration route extends even further towards the Core than the Consulate.

If the Wave is a lightspeed phenomena and if the Wave is coming in from the direction of the Core, why hasn't it been effecting the Zhodani for centuries? To have an ETA at the Imperial border of 1200, a lightspeed Wave would have contacted the Consulate's coreward border around 950, nearly a generation prior to the Third Frontier War. Why aren't the Wave's effects seen by those outside the Consulate until 1119?

By the time of the Fifth Frontier War, a lightspeed Wave with an Imperial ETA of 1200, would have already passed over half of the Zhodani Consulate and thrown that polity into chaos. Yet no sign of that chaos are seen until 1119, nearly 180 years after the Wave 'should' have begun sweeping across the Consulate.

Next consider the Core Route. Zhodani exploration flotillas and supply bases should have encountered the Wave well before it reached the Consulate border. Encountering the Wave just one sector clsoer to the Core translates to a ~125 year warning. Even if the Wave somehow destroyed those fleets and bases, their loss would eventually be noticed. With FTL jump drives, the Zhodani could avoid the current location of a lightspeed wave front and examine the conditions behind it. Again, even if those ships were lost, the Zhos would still notice.

What is it about the Empress Wave that allowed it to 'sneak up' on the Consulate? Was there a Zhodani psionic blindspot of some sort at work here? Or was the Wave both a FTL and lightspeed phenonmena? Just how does the Wave's timing work?

Some have suggested that the Wave was a barely noticeable FTL wave front until it 'hit' enough psions to slow down and become the lightspeed Consulate wrecker of 1119-1200. This makes the Wave a psionic tsunami of sorts. In the deep ocean those waves move near the speed of sound but are only a few inches or feet high. It is only when they reach shallow water that they slow dramatically and build to their monsterous heights.

That's my latest question.

On a different note, you've been extremely gracious with your participation here at COTI. However, the number, size, and thoughtfulness of your posts mean you are using a great deal of your precious personal time answering all our queries. While we all greatly appreciate your presence hear, I don't think any of us want to see you get burned out. May I suggest you dial it back a notch or three? Believe me, no matter what speed you respond to us with, we'll all still be here and we'll all still have questions!

Again, thank you for sharing with us.


Sincerely,
Bill
 
"One of the "must do" items in TNE before we ever started was Frank's desire to get rid of reactionless drives. I think somewhere someone made the nice soundbite that "we try to only violate one law of physics per game," and in Traveller it was jump drive, so reactionless drives had to go."

Hmm. I like my SF nice and hard, so I can't really argue with that. Unfortunately, by the time of TNE reactionless thrusters had been carved in stone as a fundamental fact of the Traveller universe.
 
Craig's people almost made it; the survivors went out into the wreckage and eventually joined forces with the Fourth Imperium Reconstruction Service.

Margaret's was the last Imperial domain to go down in the Viral Plague. The Varian Line held out for many years and, in Operation Bright Defiance, the Glimmerdrift Alliance (with Margaret at the head) actually retook a large region, cleared it out and set up the Ne PLus Ultra Line which sheltered the people of Glimmerdrift Reaches and beyond for many years.

It was probably due to Margaret that the Hivers survived the Viral Plague at all, and though the last Imperial world outside the Black Imperium went under in 1189 there are still fragments here and there that might yet climb out of the wreckage.
 
Originally posted by MJD:Craig's people almost made it...
Mr. Dougherty,

Those are bits from M:1248, correct?

As interesting as they are, I believe the posters to this particular thread are asking Mr. Nilsen what his plans had been.

Now M:1248 is official and when it is released next year (hooray!) it will sell out faster than 5 cent Viagra, but M:1248 is not what the posters here are asking about.

They want to know what GDW's TNE Line Editor had in mind. And knowing his answers will not harm M:1248's sales one bit.


Sincerely,
Larsen
 
Bill/Larsen--

Hey, by the way, can someone give me a pointer on how to correctly use this "Quote" utility. Is there a "best practices" convention on this board on the nested indents, and use of bold/not bold, and how to cite who did it? I think this particularly became a problem for me last night and I did not have the patience or brainpower to figure out what at first had seemed so simple.

Swennyway, Bill/Larsen axed:

Q: What is it about the Empress Wave that allowed it to 'sneak up' on the Consulate? Was there a Zhodani psionic blindspot of some sort at work here? Or was the Wave both a FTL and lightspeed phenonmena? Just how does the Wave's timing work?

A: It's funny how much stuff can still be lodged in my brain after all I wrote, and which can still be dislodged by further questions.

To be brief, the idea was that the arrival of the wave and the implementation of the phenomenon "carried" by the wave don't have to have the same timing. Here are a couple of examples. You can wire your house for electricity and plug in all your appliances, but until the power company turns on the power from the street, nothing happens. So you can think of the Empress Wave as, in my first posting, the line behind which there is a slight change in the membrane between N-Space and J/Psi-space, but the "traffic" passing through that membrane is not a constant, but can change. So you can get your house wired, and the power can come on intermittently.

Another example is that you can broadcast radio waves of silence ("dead air") and also radio waves of information (music, talk, etc.). The energy of the waves is the same, but the way they are decoded by the receiver is different.

That's what I was getting at with the Empress frozen in time, like the moment when the birds stop singing, waiting for something to happen.

So the phenomenon that the EW is carrying/transmitting/enabling/wiring the universe for is not always behaving the same way. Likewise, just as psionic effects have a range, the various madness effects are amplified by the presence of a bunch of psis who may have been adversely affected by the wave. So the more psionic energy encompassed locally by the wave, the worse it is capable of getting.

So while Zhodani core expeditions have been inside the wave before, sometimes it wasn't carrying damaging energy, sometimes there wasn't sufficient critical mass to amplify it, sometimes a single crewman went nuts, sometimes a ship blew up, but it wasn't until entire Zhodani worlds got involved that it was capable of really going bad. And even then, sometimes the "empress was frozen in time" for long periods.

Those were some of the concepts that I remember, but the heavy lifting of working out exactly how each person would react to wave/membrane energy, how often the wave would be energized in a damaging way (and there would have also been energies of a non-damaging nature), how much that energy would be amplified by local conditions, density of psionically-permeable minds, etc., was going to have to wait until there was a product that would focus more closely on it. The Empress Wave was not going to have one single monolithic effect in all cases first of all, because it's not interesting, and second of all, because we know that some known polities (Zhodani and Vargr) have already been through it, and if it were that simple and predictable, then better countermeasures would have been evolved.

That is all off the top of my head and can probably be improved on after one or two good night's sleep and a couple more long car rides when my brain can say, "oh here's another piece you were looking for." But I had that much to share now, and felt like dumping it while I was thinking about it.

Outta here,

Dave
 
Sigh. I broke my rule about revealing bits of the 1248 background outside the playtest and the first reaction was a protest....

Yes, I *was* shamelessly trying to turn Dave's reappearance into a chance to get some more publicity for 1248. Yes, I *will* keep on doing that. And yes, I want to know what Dave's answers are too.

But I'd like people to understand that Dave's responses are *what he had planned* and not the Official Version As It Will Be Published And Enshrined In Canon.
 
Originally posted by Dreadnought (aka David Freakin' Nilsen):
Ah-oooga, ah-oooga, Nilsen surfacing.

<snip>

Being nothing if not really stupid, I’ve done gone and responded to the first set of questions. I’m going to be performing in a ballet for the next couple days in addition to my other regular activities, so I might not be checking back in for a little bit.

<snip>
Given the season, I'm guessing THE NUTCRACKER. What's your part?

Getting back to TNE:

1) Thanks for taking the time to answer questions here. I enjoyed the TNE material when it was first published and this gives a sense of closure on many of the interesting questions the material raised.

2) The added details you provided on the Ithklur explained some things I missed originally. I know think I have a much better idea on what you intended for them.

3) FF&S rocked. I really appreciate the work you put into it.

- Bill Seney
 
Dave,

May I reiterate the comment made earlier, please don't burn yourself out. We have been waiting many years for the answers to your questions, we can easily wait a little longer. I myself have had a physical and mental collapse, so I know what you have gone through. You don't have to get the answers out in a time limit and then go away. Please stay around and have fun here, drop in information and for a chat when you feel like it. There's no pressure!

By the way, I'm not the only person with a wife who plays RPGs, my best friend's wife (who's also my wife's best friend) plays. Collectively we have four sons whom we thrust dice at from the age of six or so, they all still play today. Unfortunately, their daughter dropped out at age 13, and now thinks her parents etc are 'weird'.

I have to say that neither my wife, nor I liked the HePLar drive, but for completely different reasons. As my wife says "I should become an accountant why? My character has the skill to work it out, tell me when it goes wrong, let's get on with the roleplaying!" Sarah, my wife (I'm Simon by the way) really didn't want to get involved in all the maths. Not because she doesn't like maths, far from it! Sarah likes to design and detail systems and ships and enjoys the maths there. She just thought that the maths was irrelevant to the role playing. Therefore I didn't use it. I didn't like it as I and most of my players felt it constrained them in exploring the outer reaches of solar systems. From the sweeping vistas of space we were reduced to creeping round the major planet. That at least is how we felt. I also felt that the Specific Impulse (thrust per unit mass of fuel) was far too high.

I think that if the explanations you have given for the reason behind the change and some examples such as you suggest had been done we might have been less upset. Still, it had its upside, I've got lots of ships etc to redesign.

Please stay around here as long as you like, and please don't try to do too much.
 
Bill Seney--

Originally posted by Dreadnought (aka David Freakin' Nilsen):
Ah-oooga, ah-oooga, Nilsen surfacing.

<snip>

Being nothing if not really stupid, I’ve done gone and responded to the first set of questions. I’m going to be performing in a ballet for the next couple days in addition to my other regular activities, so I might not be checking back in for a little bit.

<snip>

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Given the season, I'm guessing THE NUTCRACKER. What's your part?
Actually it's Cinderella. They do it every year as part of a "Yuletide" thingie. I was the Wicked Stepmother. I was one of the Wicked Stepsisters last year (the one with the really bad anger control issues and the off-the-shoulder lavender dress) but I got promoted! And they bought me a new dress!

Artistically yours,

Dave
 
Originally posted by David Freakin' Nilsen:
Maybe I'm still missing your point, but...I don't think so?

Dave
This time I think you got it. Okay, the question's answered.
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Originally posted by MJD:
Sigh. I broke my rule about revealing bits of the 1248 background outside the playtest and the first reaction was a protest....

Yes, I *was* shamelessly trying to turn Dave's reappearance into a chance to get some more publicity for 1248. Yes, I *will* keep on doing that. And yes, I want to know what Dave's answers are too.

But I'd like people to understand that Dave's responses are *what he had planned* and not the Official Version As It Will Be Published And Enshrined In Canon.
If its any comfort I will be in line to buy 1248 any which way I can when it comes out and had I not stumbled across this board I probably wouldn't have known that such a thing existed. Don't get me wrong, I am very interested in learning what Dave's plans were and in learning more about this whole 'Traveller' thing in general.

As a relative novice in the TU I'm pretty omniverous in where I get my source info and am just thrilled that new background sources may be on their way.

I do have a question for you though. From a newbie's perspective I am very curious about how much info about the third and shattered Imperium you will provide. It seems that most of the supplements for TNE drew on this knowledge and until I goofed around on the internet and purchased a copy of Survival Margin I was pretty clueless in terms of specifics. Heck, I'm still not sure if Craig was looking to sit on the Iridium Throne or if he was allied with Dulinor or what his deal was.
 
Martin - I don't think anyone here doubts that Dave's answers are What He Had Planned rather than What Will Be Published. You've done a brilliant job with 1248 IMO, and no-one can take that from you. You don't need to feel threatened at all.

That said, I would love it if there was some possibility for Dave to get have input into 1248, or at least contribute to some of the discussions. If you and Dave and Hunter are OK with that, that is.
 
For all the angst I've had about the demise of GDW just as they were making all this cool stuff, I think maybe it was for the better, having read about the plans for the EW. That would have been tantamount to making the game into D&D, a game I despised at the time, and still refuse to play with anything less than an ace GM.

I am sure that would have broken my heart. All that cool FFS stuff, H&I being a reimagining of the way to present aliens and their psychologies, then EW breaking all kinds of rules and just being "magic" (that which cannot be explained by science). Psionics is enough of a stretch to me.

Nowadays, well, I'm not so hateful of making up everything as you go, but I AM drawn toward eliminated unnecessary complications and PLAYING the game, rather than having to understand overcomplicated metaphysics as understood by some one who may not even understand what they're talking about and that I would never know if they were even being consistent!

Thank you Dave, for once again proving to me that all my heroes have faults.
 
A number of us would have had far better opinions of you had we been given any such replies in years now gone by.

I completely understand the logic of your point. However, I hope you understand that there really was a stretch of a few years when I had no idea that there was any sort of desire for this sort of thing, so did not understand that I was "withholding" anything from anyone any longer. And I hope it won't be seen as pissy on my part to suggest that maybe there is some logic to the point that maybe it's not really useful or accurate to speculate on a man's motivations or intentions when he is not around to help clarify misconceptions. I guess in the absence of data it's natural to get impatient and frustrated, but impatience and frustration are not always unerring guides to truth.
Well, y'see, I've been asking the same questions since the release of H&I and RSB... I was on the TML at the release of the latter of the two... and had to wait 10 years to get an answer.

It doesn't help when posts are made "in loco signator" if replies and queries are not passed back to the signator referenced.

I'm very glad to have answers... I could never have seen the logic of the Democratization of the Regency... there were not enough bits in it to make it make sense. Now I understand it... disagree wholeheartedly, still, but I can see now where it came from.
 
It is now for all of us to see what part of Dave's active imagination can be grafted onto 1248...there will be significant differences to be sure but other things will be useful.

Martin has done a great job by bringing a awareness of the potential of a New Era and it will for us all (hopefully, we will be able to bring Dave on board, too) to bring that era to life.
 
Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:

Hmm. I like my SF nice and hard, so I can't really argue with that. Unfortunately, by the time of TNE reactionless thrusters had been carved in stone as a fundamental fact of the Traveller universe.
Bah. Reactionless thrusters only date from High Guard 2nd edition.
 
Wil/Aramis--

Well, y'see, I've been asking the same questions since the release of H&I and RSB... I was on the TML at the release of the latter of the two... and had to wait 10 years to get an answer.

It doesn't help when posts are made "in loco signator" if replies and queries are not passed back to the signator referenced.

I'm very glad to have answers... I could never have seen the logic of the Democratization of the Regency... there were not enough bits in it to make it make sense. Now I understand it... disagree wholeheartedly, still, but I can see now where it came from.
Even if you disagree, and even if it's been 10 years, for whatever reason, I hope that it makes a difference that after this time someone cared enough to answer.

Dave
 
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