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Anders

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That humans encountered the Sung when they did is a big coincidence; the Sung could just as well have developed slightly faster and been the ones who reached the stars first. Here is an alternate version of 2300AD, assuming that the Sung got to Earth first.


Sometime mid-21st century, right in the painful rebuilding after the Twilight war, humanity saw sleek starships appear in the sky. They soon announced themselves as the Atcheektoon starfleet, willing to engage in peaceful trade and education.

The nations that joined under the Atcheektoon as Taka-soon gained assistance from the meddlesome but benevolent aliens: resources, advanced technology, education and access to space. Those who did not join in found themselves at a tremendous disadvantage. Given human nature (and perhaps some meddling from a few Machiavellian Sung), some nations tried to seize the goodies anyway, leading to a reverse Slaver war. After decisively demonstrating what 200 years of technological advancement and orbital superiority can do to an essentially 20th century military, the Atcheeektoon gracefully accepted the peace offering of their stricken enemies.

Sung space is the current Chinese Arm. They discovered the Xiang and Eber before the humans and incorporated them in their empire, so they had limited experience with alien contact (and some ideas of how troublesome ungrateful natives can be). By the time they met with the humans they were exploring the American arm. The French Arm – now the Human Arm - becomes a joint human-Sung project.

The Sung Empire is a multi-species empire, although the Sung tend to be the dominant species and control the Charr-to-sah. The different Sung nations set up colonies on suitable worlds (mainly low-G worlds like Avalon, Ellis, Beta Hydri, Botany Bay, Rho Eridani, Kanata, Neubayern and Haifeng), sometimes together with humans and Eber. King is mainly an Eber world, as the solid Eber handle the gravity pretty well.

Eventually meeting the Pentapods proved to be a great cultural challenge: they do not seem to understand the Sos-Soon-Atkacharr, and are neither interested in learning how to build advanced technology nor willing to teach their biotechnology. While trying to deal with this challenge humans and sung encountered the Kafers. Now the Human Arm has to deal with both problems – and due to the long Atchektoon peace the human-Sung warships are not very advanced…

In this setting most human nations fall into three groups. There are the big ones who have reached Tassacharr-soon and may soon be vying with Atchektoon (and each other) for being Kacharr-soon. They have colonies among the stars; they have absorbed much Sung culture but have also developed a great deal of confidence. The Taka-soon nations are still under Sung control. They are weaker, more dependent on the Atchektoon and also more likely to be used by them as pawns in politics. They participate in exploration and interstellar trade within the Sung Empire. Then there are the pariah nations that refuse Sos-Soon-Atkacharr, seeking their own way but cut-off from trade, technology and space by the collaborators. Some may be proud isolationists trying to preserve human culture from Sung imperialism; others are failed states and dictatorships that won’t play the game fairly. There are secret projects to acquire advanced technology through espionage or independnet R&D, hopes for demonstrating unexpected supremacy in some domain that embarasses the Sung.

This scenario is a bit like David Brin’s “Sundiver”: some people do everything to emulate the new space overlords; others take pride in their human “barbarism”. The Sung are however not very superior overlords so there is a great deal of opportunity for humans to rise in the ranks or become equals. Technology could be on the usual 2300/2320 levels, but with Sung design twists. Given the reduction of conflict under Sung rule weapons tech is not as advanced, while various forms of agent gadgetry for espionage has advanced significantly.

As for nations, one setup could be that France, as the 21st century power with the most to loose, did not join the Empire and was slapped down in the “Slaver War”. Meanwhile the nations of North and South America joined in early, and are now at Tassacharr-soon status. The cultural effects have been complex. The less individualistic south nations had an easier time fitting in, becoming paragons of Taka-soonness. The northern, more individualistic nations benefited greatly but always chafed under the obligations and constraints. Over time they have become somewhat better adjusted, but are clearly the hawks of human-Sung politics. The rest of the world is either relatively well off Taka-soon loyalists (much of Europe, Russia, the middle east, parts of Asia, parts of Africa), or the poorer pariah nations working more or less well together to counterbalance the overlords (France, Australia, parts of Asia and Africa, India).
 
As for nations, one setup could be that France, as the 21st century power with the most to loose, did not join the Empire and was slapped down in the “Slaver War”. Meanwhile the nations of North and South America joined in early, and are now at Tassacharr-soon status. The cultural effects have been complex. The less individualistic south nations had an easier time fitting in, becoming paragons of Taka-soonness. The northern, more individualistic nations benefited greatly but always chafed under the obligations and constraints. Over time they have become somewhat better adjusted, but are clearly the hawks of human-Sung politics. The rest of the world is either relatively well off Taka-soon loyalists (much of Europe, Russia, the middle east, parts of Asia, parts of Africa), or the poorer pariah nations working more or less well together to counterbalance the overlords (France, Australia, parts of Asia and Africa, India).

Spooky spooky spooky -- I love it.

My setup preference would be that, in an uncharacteristic move, France rolls over and embraces the Sung wholeheartedly, with Eastern nations falling in line behind them and Western nations in various degrees of relative independence, rebellion, or standoffish trade relations.
 
That could also work. Overall, there is a great deal of freedom to decide here who ends up on what side. If I was going to run this setting, I would probably roll dice or draw tarot cards to see who ends up on the good side of the Sung and who gets an orbital bombardment.

The pariah states might make a really good cyberpunk environment. Hmm, shades of Walter John Williams' "Voice of the Whirlwind"?
 
I quite like the idea of this setting.

I don't think that the Sung would settle worlds orbiting flare stars like Kanata and Ellis, but your list of likely Sung colony worlds, with a division of the known space of 2300AD into low-gravity Sung worlds and high-gravity human worlds (and higher-gravity Eber worlds), makes sense.

What will happen with the Kafers?
 
What will happen with the Kafers?

I don't know. One way to play in this setting would be to have a big Invasion war, with the humans bearing the brunt of the attacks but getting support from the Sung and Ebers. That would be pretty similar to classic 2300AD.

Suppose the Human-Sung forces manage to beat back the Kafers, perhaps with something like the Pentapod's Revenge or just military brilliance/luck. Then the victors would be obliged by Sos-Soon-Atkacharr to help civilize them. This might create a very odd setting: humans and sung among the Kafers, trying to beat them into civilization. The curious thing is that if the Kafers realized that their conquerors were not smart barbarians but rather smart civilized creatures, they would likely "get" Sos-Soon-Atkacharr in their own way. It is just that to a Kafer it would be more a "might is right and civilized" philosophy they would in term try to instil (through persuasive violence) on the others.

Conversely, imagine the Kafers winning. Gigadeaths all around, lots of very adventure-friendly postapocalyptic settings and desperate rear guard actions. But Sos-Soon-Atkacharr would apply to life under a Kafer occupation government too. I can imagine sung (and humans) who take to the Kafer way of life, trying to fit in and becoming "good" Kafers. The Kafers might not get it that way (they have always seemed to me to be rather species-chauvinistic), leading to internal conflicts. So there would be Kafers, "free" humans and Sung fighting the Kafer occupants, and then "collaborators" with a more uncertain stand and an increasingly alien culture steeped in social violence. Lots of sides, lots of conflict, pretty nasty and brutish but also with chances of interesting cultural development (what happens if some Sung starts to think Sos-Soon-Atkacharr is a big mistake, and the humans were right all along?)
 
I don't know. One way to play in this setting would be to have a big Invasion war, with the humans bearing the brunt of the attacks but getting support from the Sung and Ebers. That would be pretty similar to classic 2300AD.

The timetable of the push out from Earth would be interesting. If the Sung came in the mid-21st century with the technological kit of Canon's early 23rd century, humans could conceivably have access to the technological base of an advanced starfaring civilization much earlier than in Canon. If that's the case, the potential exists for a considerably more rapid human expansion down the French Arm (and to Tirane?) than in Canon history. If by the time Triumphant Desitny comes calling *Aurore is a Sung/Ukrainian/Texan/German colony world as heavily industrialized and defended as Beta Canum, or if this civilization expanded to the Wolf Cluster before hand ...

(Idle thought. Perhaps the Sung could come in the middle of the Russo-Ukrainian War?)

Suppose the Human-Sung forces manage to beat back the Kafers, perhaps with something like the Pentapod's Revenge or just military brilliance/luck. Then the victors would be obliged by Sos-Soon-Atkacharr to help civilize them. This might create a very odd setting: humans and sung among the Kafers, trying to beat them into civilization. The curious thing is that if the Kafers realized that their conquerors were not smart barbarians but rather smart civilized creatures, they would likely "get" Sos-Soon-Atkacharr in their own way. It is just that to a Kafer it would be more a "might is right and civilized" philosophy they would in term try to instil (through persuasive violence) on the others.

The question of the Ylii in this setting is interesting. Would the Sung decide that the Kafer have failed utterly in implementing the principles of Sos-Soon-Atkacharr, and what would they do about it?

In a piece of background history that I'd written for 2300AD,
"Notes on the Sung-Xiang Encounter (DM+4 123)", I'd speculated that the Sung were willing to rationalize their domination of the Xiang by believing that excluding the Xiang would have involved treating them as less than animals. What would a Sung-dominated civilization do if it came across a civilization where one species dominated another (well, a genus) to the point of exterminating it on multiple worlds?

This setting could be one where the war against the Kafers proceeds much deeper into Kafer space, into the regional domains of the other suzerains.

Conversely, imagine the Kafers winning. Gigadeaths all around, lots of very adventure-friendly postapocalyptic settings and desperate rear guard actions. But Sos-Soon-Atkacharr would apply to life under a Kafer occupation government too. I can imagine sung (and humans) who take to the Kafer way of life, trying to fit in and becoming "good" Kafers. The Kafers might not get it that way (they have always seemed to me to be rather species-chauvinistic), leading to internal conflicts. So there would be Kafers, "free" humans and Sung fighting the Kafer occupants, and then "collaborators" with a more uncertain stand and an increasingly alien culture steeped in social violence. Lots of sides, lots of conflict, pretty nasty and brutish but also with chances of interesting cultural development (what happens if some Sung starts to think Sos-Soon-Atkacharr is a big mistake, and the humans were right all along?)

Honestly, I think that a Kafer conquest of the Sung-Human-Eber-Xiang commonwealth would end up reproducing the sad fate of the Ylii. One peaceful polytaxic civilization looks so much like another, it's hard to tell sometimes.
 
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