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Let's not forget local holidays...

"Oh, didn't you know all government offices are closed on St. Cyril's Day?"
"I am so sorry, I forgot to inform you last time we spoke about the Judge's vacation plans. He always takes the family skiing in the southern hemisphere over the long St. Cyril's Day weekend."

"How did you get that body off your ship when the SPA stevadores are off for St. Cryil's Day? You didn't unload it yourself did you?!!! Now the dock workers are going to picket your ship; you may never get off this planet!"
I suspect that Imperial starports are run without reference to local holidays. Or Imperial holidays for that matter. That's just an opinion, though. But I don't see anything for the Bad Guys to do and the PCs to undo in that scenario.


Hans
 
I suspect that Imperial starports are run without reference to local holidays. Or Imperial holidays for that matter. That's just an opinion, though. But I don't see anything for the Bad Guys to do and the PCs to undo in that scenario.


Hans

I doubt they'll ignore imperial holidays. OoCC is likely to come down hard for ignoring them.

On the other hand, there's little reason they wouldn't stay open with minimum crewing.

TTA pretty much implies that the whole of the population celebrates Holiday.
 
I doubt they'll ignore imperial holidays. OoCC is likely to come down hard for ignoring them.

On the other hand, there's little reason they wouldn't stay open with minimum crewing.

TTA pretty much implies that the whole of the population celebrates Holiday.
Perhaps you're right. OTOH, some institutions do stay open on holidays. A starport could well be one of them.


Hans
 
Starports are an ongoing operation; dirtsiders might also go there shopping, especially Lowport, when their planetary holidays shut down their own commerce.

Though I suspect that on the occasion of New Year and the Emperor's birthday, celebratory banners are displayed, and bargains are made as to work schedule on those days.
 
Because there are so many other descriptions of Imperial worlds that specifically mention the absence of an Imperial consul?

Alell and Zila both have Imperial consulates. So does Regina, but that's only semi-hemi-demi-canon (mentioned in the Regina Startown setting on JTAS Online). Imperial legates are mentioned in GT:Far Trader. I see no reason to believe the Imperium wouldn't have a diplomatic representative on every member world. With a number of subordinates commensurate with the work involved (probably fairly strongly correlated with the size of the local population).


Hans

The Mongoose Traveller rulebook I have mentions Imperial Consulates in the world generation system as (approximate quote only) " Offices of most Imperial civilian departments of government such as Justice, Colonisation, Interstellar shipping etc. " and as places player characters obtain the various Imperial licenses they need and report crimes against Imperial High Law.

However in this case I suspect whoever runs the Space port is responsible. One query on a low technology planet with only a D or E class space port, a Medical examiner might not be available. One "solution", the space port administrators might propose. " You guys go to system X several parsecs away to find the nearest qualified ME, we will keep your space ship, so you do not get any ideas about running out on us. How do you get to system X with out a space ship? Your problem not ours. :CoW:
 
The Mongoose Traveller rulebook I have mentions Imperial Consulates in the world generation system as (approximate quote only) " Offices of most Imperial civilian departments of government such as Justice, Colonisation, Interstellar shipping etc. " and as places player characters obtain the various Imperial licenses they need and report crimes against Imperial High Law.
Is that the Core book? What page? I'd very much like to learn more about Imperial consulates.

However in this case I suspect whoever runs the Space port is responsible. One query on a low technology planet with only a D or E class space port, a Medical examiner might not be available. One "solution", the space port administrators might propose. " You guys go to system X several parsecs away to find the nearest qualified ME, we will keep your space ship, so you do not get any ideas about running out on us. How do you get to system X with out a space ship? Your problem not ours. :CoW:
It's more likely that whoever performs the functions of an Imperial legate on worlds with very low Imperial representation will double up on all functions, i.e. be both the Medical Officer and the Magistrate and everything else.

Anyway, that's not relevant in this particular case, since the upport alone has several thousand inhabitants, so there should be most of the functions of a small town there. Or located in the downport, a shuttle ride away.


Hans
 
Perhaps you're right. OTOH, some institutions do stay open on holidays. A starport could well be one of them.


Hans

In America, airports and the Baltimore cruise ship port (the only one I have been to) stay open on holidays and weekends. However, courts are closed then, so if the police do not release an offender they stay in jail waiting for a bond hearing. I assume the same happens with customs and immigration hearings.

What do other countries do with their open port functions on weekends and holidays, as opposed to court and quasi court schedules?
 
Port is open the Court is Not

In US I experienced this very thing. Mr. X arrives from foreign and is turned over to the locals for a warrant in a contiguous state. Locals from the city in the other state fly their deputies out with bus tickets for the return trip with Mr. X. Mr. X spends one night in county lock up in the port town, one night on board a bus to get to the city that wants him.

And then guess what...it's Winter and New Year's Break for the Court System. AND the Judge will be taking a few extra days of personal leave for family vacation.

Moral of the story:
"Unless you like the possibility of spending two weeks in county lock up waiting to see a Judge to pay a hefty fine don't travel close to major holidays."
OR
"Don't commit crimes that piss off the locals."
 
It's more likely that whoever performs the functions of an Imperial legate on worlds with very low Imperial representation will double up on all functions, i.e. be both the Medical Officer and the Magistrate and everything else.

Hans

Depends upon how you want to run it, especially in the case of the magistrate. There may simply be a "circuit Magistrate" who has a series of systems he visits on a semi-regular schedule to make rulings. In that case the players could also simply be at the mercy of the schedule.

Unless they can convince a local (or simply present) high-ranking noble to make a summary judgment...

That's how I see much of the Imperial frontier as working. Various officials either working a circuit or sitting at a hub where the problems are shipped to them - and in both cases various nobles filling in the gaps (and gumming up the works) on their estates/fiefs. Plus the various Scout administrators and Navy officers who use their general powers to "get things done" - ostensibly to "keep things moving" but often badly contaminated by politics and expediency.

D.
 
I suspect that Imperial starports are run without reference to local holidays. Or Imperial holidays for that matter. That's just an opinion, though. But I don't see anything for the Bad Guys to do and the PCs to undo in that scenario. Hans

Bearing in mind the amount of Religious dictatorships in the galaxy, I'm sure the Imperium pays strict attention to local holidays.

Regards

David
 
In US I experienced this very thing. Mr. X arrives from foreign and is turned over to the locals for a warrant in a contiguous state. Locals from the city in the other state fly their deputies out with bus tickets for the return trip with Mr. X. Mr. X spends one night in county lock up in the port town, one night on board a bus to get to the city that wants him.

And then guess what...it's Winter and New Year's Break for the Court System. AND the Judge will be taking a few extra days of personal leave for family vacation.

Moral of the story:
"Unless you like the possibility of spending two weeks in county lock up waiting to see a Judge to pay a hefty fine don't travel close to major holidays."
OR
"Don't commit crimes that piss off the locals."
There was a guy in Metlakatla - landed in his own plane, on Alaska's only "Separate Nation" Reservation. They found drugs in his plane - They extradited him to Anchorage on a chartered plane. (I was a cargo roust on said plane, doing day-labor for pocket cash and a little flight instruction.) They had state police waiting for him upon arrival. They were not exactly careful about him, either - he was brought aboard hogtied. Also aboard was the sealed box marked "Evidence"...

A comparable Traveller situation might be a colony world with an Amber zone finding something illegal, and seizing the person and cargo, then shipping the person in low berth to the parent world for trial - held locally until a ship comes through, then shipped out, and if acquitted or pardoned, shipped back to recover their ship...
 
Bearing in mind the amount of Religious dictatorships in the galaxy, I'm sure the Imperium pays strict attention to local holidays.

In the form of the Portmaster and the local Nobles, mostly. The rest of the Imperium probably doesn't care unless the dictator in question has threatened to go to war with the neighbors recently. Too much of that and the Imperial port moves into orbit and leaves the locals to their holidays.
 
In the form of the Portmaster and the local Nobles, mostly. The rest of the Imperium probably doesn't care unless the dictator in question has threatened to go to war with the neighbors recently. Too much of that and the Imperial port moves into orbit and leaves the locals to their holidays.

"Or else" is the worst possible thing to say to an Imperial Noble/Port Director/Local Navy base CO.

Taken from report of Baron Vrrger Brakkert to Sector Duke:

"...After consulting with me, the port director and navy commander agreed to restrict operations and hold a formal ceremony respecting St. Heliosphere Day, however local religious leader High Stellar Johnson was not happy with...

...terrorist attack...

...consultation with both the port director and local commander, I decided to exercise the authority of the Ducal Warrant you entrusted me with...

...High Stellar Johnson died resisting arrest by Imperial Marines and Imperial Justice Agents...

...I pray my decision to order the arrest on the surface of the world outside the port and Naval yard meets with your approval."
 
Imperial Consulates

Is that the Core book? What page? I'd very much like to learn more about Imperial consulates.


It's more likely that whoever performs the functions of an Imperial legate on worlds with very low Imperial representation will double up on all functions, i.e. be both the Medical Officer and the Magistrate and everything else.

Anyway, that's not relevant in this particular case, since the upport alone has several thousand inhabitants, so there should be most of the functions of a small town there. Or located in the downport, a shuttle ride away.


Hans
Concerning Imperial Consulates, all I have is on pages 178 and 180 of the 2008 print edition of Mongoose Traveller. On page 180 it says direct quote "An Imperial Consulate is an administration office for various imperial departments such as commerce, justice and foreign affairs. Characters wishing to report significant crimes or obtain various permits will need to visit a consulate. " This would seem to imply an imperial consulate as the equivalent of United States Federal government offices in US state capitals, and/or US diplomatic consulates and embassies abroad.

Imperial consulates seem to be classed as Imperial bases, along with the Navy and Scout service bases, but as civilian institutions instead. According to page 178 of the Mongoose rulebook, they are found in systems with a class A star port on a role of 6+ on 2d6, on a role of 8+ in systems with a class B star port, and on a 10+ role in systems with a class C star port. Sorry can find no other information on Imperial Consulates.
 
Concerning Imperial Consulates, all I have is on pages 178 and 180 of the 2008 print edition of Mongoose Traveller. On page 180 it says direct quote "An Imperial Consulate is an administration office for various imperial departments such as commerce, justice and foreign affairs. Characters wishing to report significant crimes or obtain various permits will need to visit a consulate. " This would seem to imply an imperial consulate as the equivalent of United States Federal government offices in US state capitals, and/or US diplomatic consulates and embassies abroad.
Thank you for the info.

Imperial consulates seem to be classed as Imperial bases, along with the Navy and Scout service bases, but as civilian institutions instead. According to page 178 of the Mongoose rulebook, they are found in systems with a class A star port on a role of 6+ on 2d6, on a role of 8+ in systems with a class B star port, and on a 10+ role in systems with a class C star port.
Now that doesn't work for me. Even if you disregard the GT information, there's a canonical mention of an Imperial consulate on Zila, and Zila has a Class E starport (Mind you, Zila's starport, as described, seems far to extensive to only be a Class E).

The thing is, why should the Imperium fail to have a resident diplomatic/administrative representative on any of its member worlds? It seems to me that any world important enough to rate a membership charter would be big enough to rate a resident Imperial representative (Note that high nobles are not obliged to reside on their worlds, so they can't fulfil that function).

Low-population worlds might not rate a representative, but then, IMO low-population worlds generally wouldn't rate a membership charter either.


Hans
 
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