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Looking for Beowulf deck plans

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MarianLH

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I'm looking for accurate deck plans of the basic Beowulf/Moraine type free trader. "Traders & Gunboats" didn't have any, and unless I missed something, nothing else on the CT CD-ROM had them either, although they seem to have covered just about everything else.

The ones I've found online seem to vary widely in dimensions and other details. Is the poster-sized set published by Steve Jackson any good? Are there any other published, official versions?


Marian
 
MarianLH said:
I'm looking for accurate deck plans of the basic Beowulf/Moraine type free trader. "Traders & Gunboats" didn't have any, and unless I missed something, nothing else on the CT CD-ROM had them either, although they seem to have covered just about everything else.

The ones I've found online seem to vary widely in dimensions and other details. Is the poster-sized set published by Steve Jackson any good? Are there any other published, official versions?


Marian
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How accurate?

On the CT CD look at the file called

CT G02 Game 02c Snapshot Map.pdf

It is the map of the Beowulf.

Dave Chase
 
The Snapshot one isn't really the Beowulf we know and love.

MT SOM has great plans...but the size works out as 400dt.

The GT rulebook has one...in yards and hexes.
 
Andrew Boulton said:
The Snapshot one isn't really the Beowulf we know and love.

MT SOM has great plans...but the size works out as 400dt.

The GT rulebook has one...in yards and hexes.
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Yeah, one of the resident experts on Beowulf. (And I mean it. :)

So, Andrew where is a good copy of the Beowulf we know and love?

I might want to do color deckplans of it.

Thanks

Dave Chase
 
Andrew Boulton said:
There isn't one! When I did the model I just made it up as I went along.
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OK, my CT Kung Fu is weak. Is there a ship description via LBB 2 or 5? Or is all there is

FREE TRADER BEOWULF
If the adventurers have been hired on as crew for a free trader, the following description of the ship should be made available. In other situations, the referee may wish to use details of the ship in describing that situation. The Beowulf is a type A free trader, 200 tons, and approximately thirty years old. It has ten staterooms and twenty low berths. Cargo capacity is 82 tons. The ship is streamlined, and can refuel by skimming gas from gas giants or drawing water from planetary oceans. Armament for the ship consists of one triple turret with a heterogeneous mix: one missile, one beam laser, and one sandcaster.
A second hardpoint on the hull is plated over; some day, the captain hopes to acquire a second turret and weaponry.

Is there size/dimension information?

Thanks,

I am seriously considering doing some deckplans for this now. ;)

Dave Chase
 
Oh - please do!

That would be great, it always perplexed me that the ship featuring on the cover of the game has no decent deckplans anywhere...
 
Thanks for all the replies!

Mithras said:
it always perplexed me that the ship featuring on the cover of the game has no decent deckplans anywhere...
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Does that mean the Steve Jackson ones aren't worth the $20?

Here are the free trader deckplans I've found online:

http://www.ourstead.com/trav/shipyard/free/freetrader.htm
http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/p...df?PHPSESSID=cc728a9a3fb56c4c3ef174152c672933 (pdf)

I also bought 1248 "Starships 1: Small Merchant Ships", which has yet another version. All three are very different sizes. The first one is the only one that comes close to matching the Beowulf/Moraine exterior shape, and it's by far the smallest.


DaveChase said:
On the CT CD look at the file called

CT G02 Game 02c Snapshot Map.pdf
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I had overlooked that file, thanks. But as Andrew Boulton said, that isn't quite the same ship either.

I could do my own deck plans--in fact, I've already tried--but I'm guessing blind about how long and wide it should be. The 1 ton = 2 squares guideline from LBB2 isn't quite enough guidance.


Marian
 
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far-trader said:
have a look here and see what you think...
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Well, the first thing I thought was "how did I miss this?" Then I noticed when it was posted. :)

They're nice. I like the way the crew quarters are grouped around the common area. The only thing I would quibble with is the cargo bay not extending to the sides. The first picture I ever saw of this type of ship showed cargo bay doors on the widest part of the sides, just behind the fuel scoops, and I've gotten stuck on that idea.


Marian


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DaveChase said:
OK, my CT Kung Fu is weak. Is there a ship description via LBB 2 or 5?
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From LBB2:
200-ton hull
jump drive-A, maneuver drive-A, power plant-A
30 tons fuel tankage
Computer Model/1 "adjacent to the bridge".
10 staterooms and 20 low berths
2 hardpoints, 2 tons for fire control.
no ship's vehicles.
Cargo capacity 82 tons.
Streamlined hull
Crew of four: pilot, engineer, medic, and steward.

The illustration on page 233 of TNE shows the 2nd hardpoint on the belly of the ship, right behind the nose landing gear and about midway between the cockpit window and the beginning of the wide area. There are cargo bay doors at the widest part of the sides, as I mentioned above, and the main gear is aft of the cargo area.
 
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MarianLH said:
Well, the first thing I thought was "how did I miss this?" Then I noticed when it was posted. :)
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Yep :) Your's was the post that broke me, the last straw, full credit to you for me finally posting them publicly.


MarianLH said:
...The first picture I ever saw of this type of ship showed cargo bay doors on the widest part of the sides, just behind the fuel scoops, and I've gotten stuck on that idea.
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Unfortunately they just don't fit or work that way with correct tonnage. So I took my cue for the access from the old miniature which is a bit different from all the pics I've seen.

Ditto the placement of the hardpoints and a couple other features such as the main hatches.
 
MarianLH said:
Does that mean the Steve Jackson ones aren't worth the $20?
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No, but most (many? some?) Traveller players are turned off by either the hexagons or the fact that they are draw at 1:36 scale, making them closer to 54mm as opposed to the more traditional 15mm or 25ish-mm scales.
 
1_beo-top-side.png


http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Gallery/index.php?n=546

Scale is 20px/m.
 
Well howdy-do,

i have waited many,many months to finally see what you were doing there Far Trader w/ the free trader design........thank you and wonderfull stuff there.

Andrew, the top view is awesome and completes the side view. thank you

makes me want to finish the deckplan i'm doing in word doc.

Great work all....... anyone else done deckplans of there own version of the Beowulf?
 
MarianLH said:
I could do my own deck plans--in fact, I've already tried--but I'm guessing blind about how long and wide it should be. The 1 ton = 2 squares guideline from LBB2 isn't quite enough guidance.
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Which is why many of the best renditions of the Type A use a completely different hull form. The Hero class (of which the Beo is the most famous) is just one rendition of the Type A technical specification.
 
Hey All,

atpollard's interpretation of the free trader, imo, was damn good.

His use of component modules was ingenius, if not innovative.

As to if the outer hull form was EXACTLY 200 dtons,
it looks very close to be within the +10% allowed by law.

I have based my design on his so i'm betting on it being close.
 
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