Mongoose Traveller Pocket Edition

[Allensh]

Echo: while I understand your annoyance with the sometimes overly negative tone that has been taken in regard to Mongoose Traveller around here, and while I like, support, and buy the game too, I do think Mongoose has some issues with editing that need to be addressed, particularly given the three printings it took to get High Guard right and the omission of a fairly important table from the Pocket Guide's first printing. I don't think getting so hostile really helps our "cause" (please note the quotes).

Now...I have no issues with the deck plans (other than some of them being a bit out of whack for the art used...that might simply be miscommunication with the artist). and I, not being into military tech and that kind of thing, don't care all that much about the supposed flaws of Mercenary; there is enough stuff in there that I can use that its fine with me. Obviously, people who care about those things will have a different view.

I just think Mongoose needs to slow down a bit and get it as right as possible the first time.

Allen

 

[Allensh]

I believe everyone should be entitled to their opinoin just as everyone is entitled to turn off the radio or stop reading posts.

But I do believe that Echo is very much a playtester of Mongoose, and that he has inside tracks to what is going on at Mongoose due to playtesting and contections.

That being said, how many of you are playtesters for anygame company?

And if you are, wouldn't you be very dedicated and supportive of that company.
Mainly because you either like the company (most likely) or you really like the license/product (just as likely but normally second).

So, IMO, if you don't like what someone else posts, just stop reading them or at the least stop responding to them if you really got to read the thread.

On a personal side, I really like having pocket editions (reader digests if you will). It makes it handy to carry along for reading when I travel or want to work on something out of it and don't have the space for all the books (or a big book). And most people think I am reading a book, book not a game book. Kind of like that aspect too.

Dave Chase

well let's see..I've playtested for Steve Jackson Games, GDW, Imperium Games, Comic Images, White Silver Publishing, QLI (T20, in fact), and Cubicle 7 Entertainment, just off the top of my head <g>. Oh, and I wasn't exactly a playtester on Labyrinth Lord but I did help check it over for fidelity to the original, and thus got my name in the front and a copy of the book.

I love the idea of a pocket edition too. And I'm going to go ahead and get the pocket edition as my "freebie" when I get my copy of High Guard replaced, some time after the holidays. (I figure sending it out now would be pointless as it's just going to get delayed anyway). Since I have the core book, the missing table isn't as big of an issue, just kind of annoying...but life would not be life without annoyances.

Allen

 

[infojunky]

What I'm really waiting for from Mongoose is their other settings using the "Traveller" rule set.

With the expansion I expect to see some tighting up of the core system. Besides it might give stuff to kipe for Traveller.

 

[Jamus]

You're a bunch of dinosaurs, who's collossal snobbery and factionism has been holding the game back for years, and are now increasingly becoming marginalised as a tiny minority of dissenters, pretty much on this site alone. It's you people that have been the problem to overcome for Traveller's success, more than anything else for years and years, just from what I've picked up from my experience on this site over the last year or so - and you do now have a lot of people on other sites saying the same thing about you these days. You've got a reputation.

This is pretty much a truth.

 

[Allensh]

What I'm really waiting for from Mongoose is their other settings using the "Traveller" rule set.

With the expansion I expect to see some tighting up of the core system. Besides it might give stuff to kipe for Traveller.

I agree, starting with Babylon 5. After that, Starship Troopers and Hammer's Slammers are the ones that most intrigue me.

Allen

 

[rust]

I agree, starting with Babylon 5. After that, Starship Troopers and Hammer's Slammers are the ones that most intrigue me.

By the way, I have been asked several times over here whether there really
will be a Starship Troopers supplement for Mongoose Traveller.
I have tried to verify this, but somehow I must have missed the information.

So, if anyone has any reliable information on this, please let me know.

Thank you !

 

[Rhialto the Marvelous]

All of which is utter bullshit,

Can you back up that statement with some facts?

Or are you just going to rant on and on and on....

 

[Allensh]

By the way, I have been asked several times over here whether there really
will be a Starship Troopers supplement for Mongoose Traveller.
I have tried to verify this, but somehow I must have missed the information.

So, if anyone has any reliable information on this, please let me know.

Thank you !

My understanding is that it will not be a "Supplement" per se but in fact a separate game that uses a version of the MGT system. That it what I recall from the announcement; I will endeavor to confirm this and post a link here.

Allen

 

[rust]

My understanding is that it will not be a "Supplement" per se but in fact a separate game that uses a version of the MGT system. That it what I recall from the announcement; I will endeavor to confirm this and post a link here.

Thank you very much in advance, this would be very helpful.

 

[Echo]

Can you back up that statement with some facts?

Or are you just going to rant on and on and on....

You can bloody talk! I've already stated the facts in previous posts, in terms of Mongoose's business situation. If you don't believe them, go research them yourself.

Echo: while I understand your annoyance with the sometimes overly negative tone that has been taken in regard to Mongoose Traveller around here, and while I like, support, and buy the game too, I do think Mongoose has some issues with editing that need to be addressed, particularly given the three printings it took to get High Guard right and the omission of a fairly important table from the Pocket Guide's first printing. I don't think getting so hostile really helps our "cause" (please note the quotes).

I don't have any cause beyond saying what I think, in the few days I have left to post. I have no interest or desire to sell anybody anything, and could not frankly give two hoots whether people here do or not. I've got the game I want, and have the confidence and ability to get other people to enthuse about it too, in my own personal gaming. That's all I need. I'm just pissed about the fact that this site has been ritualistically acting as a geek-squeak maelstrom of killjoy energy all ⌧ing year. In my last few days, I just wanted y'all to know that!

I've got no issues with fans making complaints about specific issues in books, nor any question that Mongoose needs to sort them out. Not what I'm complaining about at all.

 

[Rhialto the Marvelous]

You can bloody talk! I've already stated the facts in previous posts, in terms of Mongoose's business situation. If you don't believe them, go research them yourself.

Yelling at the top of one's lungs without back-up is not a "statement" of facts. It's just yelling, dude. To you it clearly feels liberating. To your interlocutors it looks kinda odd.

On a general note, it's not the case that outside the Mongoose company forums this place has a bad reputation. It's rather the case that Mongoose has a pretty spotty reputation out there.

The same goes, irrespective of company or system played, for yelling fanbois.

Try being yourself on rpg,net or therpgsite, and watch what happens. It could be a lifestyle-changing event.

 

[rust]

I'm just pissed about the fact that this site has been ritualistically acting as a geek-squeak maelstrom of killjoy energy all ⌧ing year.

While I would not use the same words, I find it impossible to disagree with their content ...

Edit:
This site indeed has got a bad reputation for lots of flames and few information, and I know more than a few
people who have stopped to visit it because of this - and none of them was a MGT fanboy.

 

[Echo]

Yelling at the top of one's lungs without back-up is not a "statement" of facts. It's just yelling, dude. To you it clearly feels liberating. To your interlocutors it looks kinda odd.

As stated before, the facts are in my previous posts, that you can't be arsed to read. You can't be arsed to read that last note properly either, going on your response. And I already post on rpg.net regularly, thanks.

 

[DaveChase]

You can bloody talk! I've already stated the facts in previous posts, in terms of Mongoose's business situation. If you don't believe them, go research them yourself.

I don't have any cause beyond saying what I think, in the few days I have left to post. I have no interest or desire to sell anybody anything, and could not frankly give two hoots whether people here do or not.
...

Whether you intended to or not, just by posting your opinion on a forum that is dedicated to the favorite subject of those that participate, you will always seem to be trying to convince others that you are right. Not you, Echo, but you as anyone who posts.

And after reading many of your posts, Echo, I do believe that you do care. You yourself stated that only a dedicated few of the many fans every log into a forum site. And those that do are probably the strongest of supporters either for or against some aspect of that site (game, product, company.) So some disagreement will happen.

I'm just pissed about the fact that this site has been ritualistically acting as a geek-squeak maelstrom of killjoy energy all ⌧ing year. In my last few days, I just wanted y'all to know that!

I've got no issues with fans making complaints about specific issues in books, nor any question that Mongoose needs to sort them out. Not what I'm complaining about at all.

Just curious, Echo, if you will. Have been to the other threads/sections of this website?
If you have only been here (MgT section) and the Pit then I fully understand why you feel the way that you do.
Human nature takes the easy path, the one that takes less effort or work to accomplish/satisfy. And People do not like change. There are people here who will not even go to another game version of Traveller section because they 'totally' don't like that version.

To me that is a shame. Not that I would want to convince them to play that version. No, it is shame because there are some very good Traveller game discussion in each section. Some are just for that version but some of the ideas, Sheesh. I have learned a lot by just looking them over. Getting a feel for what they are trying to do with their game.

I think that it helps keep open lots of possibilities to learn more about what other players want by doing so. I personally own a bit of each version (as I will own a bit of MgT as money premits.) But I primarly run Classic Traveller when ever I do run Traveller.

With MgT following Classic, I will probably start using it more as more players buy it.

Sorry to hear that you are leaving our forum, Echo. Heres hoping that you find something good to like about COTI forums before you leave.

Dave Chase

 

[Echo]

No, the other sections of the forum are fine for me - it's just this specific Mongoose Traveller forum, for me, that's been abominable, although that has also been partially influenced by people who prefer other versions of the game posting incessantly on it. I'm only really getting a glimpse of some very apparent longterm 'community issues' though.

In terms of what I'm doing, it's simply a case of practicality. Over the next couple of years, I'll not be in a situation that I can practically do much online interaction. I'll be abroad teaching, and hopefully buiding towards a phd. Whilst I do hope to play the game still with friends, and maybe still get supplements through mail order or the like, online gaming is pretty low on the agenda.

 

[rust]

Over the next couple of years, I'll not be in a situation that I can practically do much online interaction. I'll be abroad teaching, and hopefully buiding towards a phd.

Good Luck and Take Care, Echo.

 

[DaveChase]

Yes, Echo, good fortune and have fun.

Maybe you will take some notes and will be able to develop a world travel guide for us.

Of course a Traveller's world guide would be even cooler. :rofl:

Have a good one

Dave Chase

 

[ThunderChilde]

For what its worth Echo had a valid point, none of the other version boards attract the active critics, and I do mean active, that the Mongoose one does. Its my favored version and I don't bother reading it much because of the constant negativity.

About the the Pit, was active for like 2 weeks and had to bail, for my own piece of mind.

Good luck with the teaching gig, where are you going?

Edit.S. Just took a cruise through the other sections, Low and Behold, not a stitch of criticism, or even a whiff of sarcasm. Why should that be? I had a lot of issues with some other traveller iterations, do I go about venting my spleen on the relevent boards? No, I do not. Perhaps its beacause I was raised to be better than that, or because I have a basic sense of respect for anyone who plays RPG of any kind. Trolls are as Trolls do, to put it simply.

 

[Echo]

The Phillippines initially. A little bit in New Zealand. Eventually, the Antarctic.

 

[aramis]

ThunderChilde: None of the other COTI sub-boards have active releases, either.