Patron Zero
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I've always enjoyed 'pig in a poke' story element to add 'texture' ans substance to most any RPG campaigns.
Most uncool starship?
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martletsquire
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So...
Stats for the Orrimots? Or is it Orrimotti? Anything with a writeup like that needs stats at least, and a scarily convoluted deckplan that makes using an AHL as a trader make sense...
Stats for the Orrimots? Or is it Orrimotti? Anything with a writeup like that needs stats at least, and a scarily convoluted deckplan that makes using an AHL as a trader make sense...
I think this is a 2,500 ton ship. Disp = 2500. And if "Volume" is in cubic meters, then that agrees.
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(Created by Alvin Plummer using Fire, Fusion, and Steel (TNE))
TL C Orrimot-class Logistics Starship
Disp 2500 Hull Armour 10
Len 107m Volume 35,000
Price MCr 756.483 Target M
Config Slab SL TL C
Mass 26,564/15,929
Power plant 2 * 1250 Mw fusion (89 Mw/hit), 1 yr duration (174 Mw surplus)
Jump 3 (2333 kl fuel per parsec, 7000 kl total)
G-rating 1 (2000 Mw/g), CG lifters
G-turns 30.1 (51.2 w/jfuel, 77.5 w/jfuel, cargo fuel) 332.2 kl of
fuel each G-turn
Maintenance 1258
Computer 3 * st TL C (.4 Mw)
Commo 1000 AU MAser (.6 Mw), 1000 AU Laser (.3 Mw), 30,000 Radio (1 Mw)
Avionics TL A+
Sensors P-EMS (30,000, .3 Mw), A-EMS (3,000 km, 8 Mw)
Controls Bridge w/11 wstations, Engineering * 29
Armarment 5 * 120 Mj laser turrent (4: 1/9-27, 8:1/9-27, 16:1/6-9, 32:1/3-9)
(Loc: 10 Arc: all 3.3 Mw, 1 Crew ea.)
5 * sandcasters (Loc:11 Arc:All 1 Mw, 1 Crew ea. 30 Cann., 1D10*5)
Extended Life Support (4 Mw, [rounded])
Crew 53
Engineer. 29 Man. 2, Elect. 2, Maint. 3, Gunnery 10, Command 7
Accomo Sm. stateroom * 30
Facilities 2 hamster cages (600 kl each)
Airlocks 25
Cargo 8,728 kl. (Usually used for fuel). Two fuel bladders: each
holds 8720 kl. Folded, each takes up 436 kl. One's backup.
Sm Craft 10 docking rings, each with a 5-ton liferaft
Combat move 153/6
Travel move 3300/240
Surface Area
1 1-5 Radio Ant
6 1 Maser Ant
2 Laser
3-4 A-EMS
5 P-EMS
Damage Area
1-5 Hold (Cargo or fuel)
6-7 Hold (Fuel)
8-9 1-4 Hold (Fuel)
5-8 Hold (Liferaft)
9-12 Hold (Cargo/Fuel, fuel bladder 1)
13-16 Hold (Cargo/Fuel, fuel bladder 2)
17-20 Hold (Fuel)
10-11 1-2 Wpns (10: Laser, 11: Sandcaster)
3-14 Eng (fuel purifier)
15-18 Eng (CG lifter)
19-20 Hold (Fuel)
12-15 Hold (Fuel)
16-17 1-3 Elect
4-8 Quarters
9-20 Hold (Fuel)
18-19 1-7 Eng (power plant #1 in 18, #2 in 19)
8-20 Eng (jump drive)
20 1-2 Eng (HEPlaR)
3-20 Hold (Fuel)
System Damage
Elect
Maser, Laser, Radio, A-EMS P-EMS (1h) ant (1h)
Hold
Cargo 88H (if loaded with cargo, rather than fuel)
Quarters
Sm. Stateroom * 30 (2h) ea.
Life Support 15H
Emergency L.S. 7H
Engineering
Jump Drive 35H ea.
Power Plant * 2 7H
HEPlaR 2H
ContraGrav 8H
Fuel Processing 38H
Weapons
Laser * 5 1H ea.
Sandcasters * 5 1H ea.martletsquire
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As Rommel said... "Tanks. A lot."
And here's a rough approximation using Traveller5. This one worked out to 2,000 tons:
Communications Lab LC-VS13 Orrimot MCr527.7
Actual volume: 1955.5 tons
Crew comfort: -1
Communications Lab LC-VS13 Orrimot MCr527.7
Actual volume: 1955.5 tons
Crew comfort: -1
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Tons Component MCr Notes
------- ----------------------------------- ----- --------------------
2000 Streamlined Hull 122 S
10 Fins 5
0 AV=12. 1 Kinetic Plate 0
600 Jump Fuel (3 parsecs) 0 3 parsec jump, at 200t per parsec
60 Plant Fuel (one month) 0 one month
91 PowerPlant-3 (Q2) 91 P 3
155 Jump Drive-3 (Q2) 155 J 3
19 Maneuver Drive-1 (K) 38 1 G
3 AR Ext Communicator 2.5
9 DS Ext Radar 8.5
9 DS Ext Scope 8.5
9 DS Ext Neutrino Detector 8.5
5 5x Vd T3 Pulse Laser 6.5 #5
5 5x Vd T3 Sandcaster 5.5 #5
3 Computer Model/3 std 10.5
2 Life Support Long Term 2 40 person-months
1 Life Support Adaptable 1 10 sophonts
8 2x Gunner Barracks 0.4 #2 (5) R1 R1 R2 R2 R3
8.5 Cramped Bridge 1.8 4cc 7op 6ws
60 15x Crew Lounge 0 #15
40 40x Spacer Niche 4 #40 1 crew
40 20x Crew Stateroom 2 #20 1 crew
8 16x Crew Shared Fresher 8 #16 4 crew
90 2x Hamster Cage 2 #2
650 Cargo Hold Basic 0
20 10x Grapple Set Single 20 #10 up to 35t
50 10x Small Lifeboat 25 #10
This is a really good point. A vessel with low T5 ratings in Demand and Ergonomics wouldn't be something that's much fun to be in, however pretty it may look on the outside.
In addition, and not to have a crack at the esteemed artist to did the illustrations, but have you seen the Far Trader from the T4 Starships book? Not only does it look less appealing than even an Empress Mavara, but it'd be over a thousand years old! If it was in mothballs in some orbital holding facility it might still be in reasonable shape, or even just able to operate to a minimum acceptable standard. Getting parts for it though could be a bitch. Let alone the looks of wonder from people at starports who recognise it...
Saw this thread and went looking on the internet. Give them an ornithopter inspired by Dune. Not sure how you'd stat it though.
Elsewhere at that URL the author disses the Y-Wing as ugly. I always liked it . . .
gregcaires
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I wonder how many PCs it takes to crew a K'Kree ship. IIRC is has built in Centaur smell-o-rama and an engineering master/slave robot set up. That would be sweet revenge -- in the Marches, you couldn't resell that and the patron is tired of paying the berthing fees. It makes a great running gag -- "is that a K'Kree ship? You flew here in that? You guys are braver than I thought" (apologies to Leia).
So did I. In fact, I think I liked just about every ship pictured on that webpage except the ornithopter.
Patron Zero
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An interesting point seen in the earliest of Joe Johnston's sketches of the Y-wing were the ship having a fully 'enclosed' and smooth body-airframe, his commentary stated with the needs of frequent maintenance and repair the panels were left off for convenience of such.
GypsyComet
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Aren't there shots of "new" Y-Wings with all of their bodywork still in place in either Episode III or one of the two Clone Wars serials? I think I even have a Titanium Edition.
Supplement Four
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Really? I quite like their look. They look like "spacecraft" to me.
Many times, its the artist that changes my mind. I've seen some silly pics of an X-Boat, and I've seen some damn cool ones.
@OP
Why not do a Google Images search and find a pic of an ugly spacecraft that you like, then create it using Book 2?
You'll have something new, ugly, and nothing the players have ever seen before.
Supplement Four
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So, here's a couple of ideas....
This is my favorite from my quick search: THE FIXER UPPER.
"Here's your new ship, boys!"
Sometimes, cultures have aesthetic taste that outsiders don't quite understand. For example, this ship might be a mean looking vessel in the eyes of the locals. This way, you can tempt your players with descriptions like "Bird of Prey" or "Preadator Class", raising their expectations. Then SHOW THEM THIS.
Local Ship Broker: "I've been keeping this one because I didn't want to let it go. But, the price is just too high. You're in for a real treat. I present to you, the Solar Falcon..."
Here's another idea along the same lines from that Roger Corman film, Battle Beyond The Stars: That Slug Looking Vessel.
Also consider the Tech Level on the world where the players will be buying the ship. Sure, the ship could be imported from another world, especially if it is used. But, a "lower tech" design may just be what you are looking for.
SUCH AS THIS.
Also consider that the local design may be wildly different from most other types of craft (not even "symbolic" design, as suggested above).
LIKE THIS.
Or....just for a sight gag. Maybe consider going extremely retro in the vein of Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers?
HERE.
HERE.
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The last idea I have here is to give them a ship that is ugly, but actually can be pretty cool.
Maybe something LIKE THIS.
Believable in the Traveller universe, but still not that "cool". Serviceable.
GypsyComet
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Found one
http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/CloneWarsY-WingPhoto.jpg
and
http://the-new-jedi-order.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=692 (a few pics down)
and
http://www.collectiondx.com/toy_review/ywing_bomber
Hmm. Time to turn that into a Traveller ship, instead of a middleweight fighter (an old article by J.D.Webster put the Rebellion-era Y-Wing at 35 tons).
gregcaires
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Eureka!
Challenge Magazine, issue #28 -- the K'Kree Xeekr'kir 6000t merchant. Only requires a crew of 6 (pilot, medic and 4 engineers). Its a giant flying saucer that smells like a barn and looks like the K'Kree homeworld inside. I think they PCs will need to live in tents.
Challenge Magazine, issue #28 -- the K'Kree Xeekr'kir 6000t merchant. Only requires a crew of 6 (pilot, medic and 4 engineers). Its a giant flying saucer that smells like a barn and looks like the K'Kree homeworld inside. I think they PCs will need to live in tents.
