Let's see. Grandfather appeared in -350,000. Final war in -300,000. Ok, the Ancients reached a TL in the 20s, from a TL of about 6, in 50,000 years. At the current rate of improvement, humanity will hit final war levels (about TL 20) in another 2,000 years.Originally posted by Anthony:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hunter:
I was thinking more along the lines of The Grandfather, Part II...![]()
Hunter
While the Ancients represented a rather large technological leap for the Droyne, by human standards they really weren't anything exceptional.</font>[/QUOTE]Uhmm, Final War tech was at least 25 (Adv 12 Secret of the Ancients gives this as the minimum level required to use pocket universes), quite possibly 35+ (the minimum level required to create new pocket universes) since Grandfather did create his pocket universe.