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Muodray

Originally posted by Anthony:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hunter:
I was thinking more along the lines of The Grandfather, Part II...
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Hunter

Let's see. Grandfather appeared in -350,000. Final war in -300,000. Ok, the Ancients reached a TL in the 20s, from a TL of about 6, in 50,000 years. At the current rate of improvement, humanity will hit final war levels (about TL 20) in another 2,000 years.

While the Ancients represented a rather large technological leap for the Droyne, by human standards they really weren't anything exceptional.
</font>[/QUOTE]Uhmm, Final War tech was at least 25 (Adv 12 Secret of the Ancients gives this as the minimum level required to use pocket universes), quite possibly 35+ (the minimum level required to create new pocket universes) since Grandfather did create his pocket universe.
 
Originally posted by hunter:
This is true, but Grandfather was also an incredibly powerful psionicist (IIRC). Also was his ability to pinch off pocket universes based on technology or psionics?

Muodray might also have the ability to utilize any goodies from the Ancients era that may have been left over/discovered/stolen, etc., without much trouble.

A few centuries in the scheme of things isn't that much. I think the potential for a resurgent Ancients type Droyne literally in the Imperium's playground is something that would raise more than a few red flags.

Hunter[/QB]
Adv 12 seems to strongly imply that the manipulation of pocket universes is at least partly technological (access requires TL25, creation TL35). However, it also appears that most Ancient technology was also heavily dependent on psionics, so it probably requires both.
 
Originally posted by Andrewmv:
Uhmm, Final War tech was at least 25 (Adv 12 Secret of the Ancients gives this as the minimum level required to use pocket universes), quite possibly 35+ (the minimum level required to create new pocket universes) since Grandfather did create his pocket universe.[/QB]
Depends on when in the Final War, there's presumably some reason for the black globe caches, but 5,000 years is still plenty of time. Given that the Ancients were around for 50,000 years, there's no reason to assume the Ancients advanced especially fast.
 
Originally posted by Doctor Rob:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hunter:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MJD:
Moudray is not one of Grandfather's children, except in the way that the Droyne are all. He's a new, young Droyne.
Yikes! And folks on the JTAS boards are worried about the Solomani Confederation fracturing apart in the GT universe? I think there are bigger problems in development...

Hunter
</font>[/QUOTE]Hunter - Could you let me know the web address for this message board.

Cheers,
Rob
</font>[/QUOTE]Online JTAS

It's a subscription site $15.00 for two years.
 
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