Nishemani class Corsair (IE p85, S4 p14)

[robject]

WHERE is the FIRST appearance of the classic Corsair, mentioned in Supplement 4 p14-15, and pictured and described in the Imperial Encyclopedia on page 85?

 

[robject]

Ah, I found an occurrence in Supplement 4 - Citizens of the Imperium, pp 14-15.

 

[boomslang]

Ah, I found an occurrence in Supplement 4 - Citizens of the Imperium, pp 14-15.

That was where it was first introduced. I do not recall an illustration of it subsequently anywhere in CT, however.

 

[GypsyComet]

Art appears in MT Imperial Encyclopedia, pg 85, and is absent from the late CT core books (TTB and Starter Traveller) or either supplement where the Pirate career is printed (Supp 4 and SMC).

So the art's first appearance is either in MT or hiding in one of the CT adventures.

 

[whulorigan]

Art appears in MT Imperial Encyclopedia, pg 85, and is absent from the late CT core books (TTB and Starter Traveller) or either supplement where the Pirate career is printed (Supp 4 and SMC).

So the art's first appearance is either in MT or hiding in one of the CT adventures.

There is an early rendition by WH Keith in one of the issues of JTAS (though it is not noted in caption or text as a corsair - we only know that now in hindsight). I do not remember off the top of my head which JTAS issue, however.

 

[kilemall]

Sure it's not in JTAS?


I can do without the pic frankly. I'd rather image it as a body shape that is between the Type R and the Type T, with extendable fins and wings and enhanced holographic projection/radar return to go along with the deception fit from the original S4 description.



Don't think it can quite hack faking the Type L.

 

[WizWom]

Sure it's not in JTAS?

I can do without the pic frankly. I'd rather image it as a body shape that is between the Type R and the Type T, with extendable fins and wings and enhanced holographic projection/radar return to go along with the deception fit from the original S4 description.

Don't think it can quite hack faking the Type L.

There are a number of ships in JTAS art with no clear type. So, you could choose one of those. But I have been going through JTAS for any mention of a corsair with accompanying art and find none.

 

[GypsyComet]

There is an early rendition by WH Keith in one of the issues of JTAS (though it is not noted in caption or text as a corsair - we only know that now in hindsight). I do not remember off the top of my head which JTAS issue, however.

Issue 9, page 43 (repeated issue 10, pg 38) has the outboard wings, but lacks the bulk. The windows suggest a much smaller craft in general. It could be used as the basis for a variant that is all external grapple instead of internal cargo.

From Issue 1 until the JTAS section stopped in Challenge, I'm seeing nothing else close.

 

[GypsyComet]

And we didn't get deckplans for the Nish until DGP did a rather rough set in a late Digest. There were a couple variants that saw print earlier, but they aren't the Nish by any stretch.

There were a couple fan attempts, though. Mine included.

 

[GypsyComet]

Don't think it can quite hack faking the Type L.

IMO, it's a variant Type R at its roots, though not the usual one we have all the art for. The longer legs and ... salvage modifications... became common enough to earn it a separate Type designation (because the Vilani bureaucracy loves labels and pigeonholes) much like the Type J. Again IMO, I think the original is streamlined, but the disguise mods, which allow it to look like any number of regional or personal variations of its hull group, render the original streamlining non-functional, leaving only an appearance of streamlining.

So if your area of operations includes some entity that decided to use that hull for a bunch of Lab Ships (the T20 and T4 variants both look less eccentric than the Golden Age L, for example), then *sure*, a pirate might be able to pass itself off as one of those.

Regional and era variation is a given, just based on published works.