Passenger Transport Pods
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mike wightman
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And I want to throw this quote from CT Alien Realms into the mix:
Rigel Stardin
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I was talking about the design I created.
Fritz_Brown
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Not too long before I got my commercial, then.
Though "present at fill-up" is nebulous. He's paying for gas, you're filing next leg, and your other buddy is picking up lunch. Starts to sound like a crew.
I believe it. One of the keys to whether it's a violation is whether you have a relationship with the people, other than this airplane trip. If not, then the FAA begins to wonder if you're running a scam. (No large bureaucracy is known for absolute consistency, either.)
Yep. I have known lots of colleagues from Alaska; had a cousin who lived there for a goodly while. Most of them had at least a private license. I loved my almost month-long trip to Eielson AFB one Jan-Feb.
Nothing wrong with a crew...Not too long before I got my commercial, then.
Though "present at fill-up" is nebulous. He's paying for gas, you're filing next leg, and your other buddy is picking up lunch. Starts to sound like a crew.
IMTU, based heavily upon Exit Visa and some elements in TTA, 90% of 3I Law/Code Enforcement is local customs.
Timerover51
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The next time I get the urge to post an idea here, I will take the Urge, stand it against a wall, and execute it with a firing squad.
mike wightman
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It's been a really good thread with some excellent ideas.
I second that. Conflict and competition are a positive evolutionary process in the intellectual arena.
Just remember that the idea is getting pasted and worked over like a rough stone in a rock tumbler. If it has anything of worth then it will shine nicely when it pops out of the other end - if not, just try not to take it personally since it isn't you that is being thrashed, just the idea. And often times that is only a matter of taste.
Just remember that the idea is getting pasted and worked over like a rough stone in a rock tumbler. If it has anything of worth then it will shine nicely when it pops out of the other end - if not, just try not to take it personally since it isn't you that is being thrashed, just the idea. And often times that is only a matter of taste.
mike wightman
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Ah , now it makes sense. I thought it was an odd reply to Dragoner at the time
Your cargo bay pod and deck plans are excellent by the way hope you don't mind me using them in game.
Well, you gotta figure cargo may occasionally include cattle or other livestock. Besides, you gotta figure there's some sort of air cycling system in there or the first time you opened the bay on a world with some sort of atmospheric contaminant, you'd end up taking that contaminated air with you. Be very bad to have a crewman go into the cargo hold for something and pass out because the last place you visited had a CO2 atmosphere.
Life Support, in the context of Traveller, includes:
Atmosphere - oxygenation control (addition or removal as needed), removal of CO and CO2 (and probably SO₂, H₂S, NH₃, CH₄, CH₄S, C₂H₆S, C₂H₆S₂, C₂H₆S₃ - all human waste related gasses - and N₂0, O₃, and H₂O₂, which can form from sparks in a standard atmosphere), Humidity control (mostly removal).
Water - purification of waste water, production of drinking water and bathing water. Control over atmospheric water. Probably also cooking water.
Temperature - positive control to specific temperature (probably ±2°C)
Food - storage and preparation space and equipment.
Some of these, cattle and such are going to overload. I'd expect a shipment of cattle to include scrubbers and O₂ tanks, as well as feed grains. When it's not 4 Td multi-cow low-berths with 3 days battery backup.
mike wightman
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Last time I looked you don't put live cattle in a refrigerated hold...
If not, then you'd better keep that hold's walls away from sunlight.
All portions of a ship with atmosphere are likely to need thermoregulation in both directions. that ±2°C is from whatever temp you choose, by the way.
NASA had to both heat and cool the shuttle cockpit, just for reference.
mike wightman
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That's not the point I was making - live cattle are not carried in refrigerated containers, the fact that the refrigeration is mentioned in the quote implies dead moo moos.
Now if the hold is equipped to carry dead animals why bother with the other niceties of life support, namely water, oxygen and CO2 scrubbing in the hold?
The fact that you can cram in a load of ex-squaddies into a refrigerated hold implies that the ship's life support is more than capable of handling the additional stress of all the extra live bodies, way above the stateroom limit.
Heat regulation for the entire ship it a totally different issue and was not the intent of my post.
Now if the hold is equipped to carry dead animals why bother with the other niceties of life support, namely water, oxygen and CO2 scrubbing in the hold?
The fact that you can cram in a load of ex-squaddies into a refrigerated hold implies that the ship's life support is more than capable of handling the additional stress of all the extra live bodies, way above the stateroom limit.
Heat regulation for the entire ship it a totally different issue and was not the intent of my post.
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Rigel Stardin
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That is why my designs are up on the COTI site, for everyone to use....
Occurs to me belatedly that you could use the cow equivalent of low berths. Owner would provide the berths - already occupied. You'd have to supply the power. Would prevent a heavy load on your water recycling system, not to menthion the need to bring feed and deal with the, uh, output. You'd only be responsible for making sure the berths arrived intact: owner would foot the cost for any animal that didn't survive the trip. Anything that didn't make it would be butchered and sold on the receiving end to recover some of that loss.
Only problem is that the owner would have the cost of flying the empty berths back. I can see them doing that for something special - a high-value breeding bull or some such.
mike wightman
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The Traveller low berths are the cow equivalent - sort of.
The low berth and the low lottery are a direct rip off from the Dumarest novels - in which down on their luck travellers have to resort to using cold berth meant for shipping animals, hence the chance of death.
The low berth and the low lottery are a direct rip off from the Dumarest novels - in which down on their luck travellers have to resort to using cold berth meant for shipping animals, hence the chance of death.
o:"Did your steak come out of a Low Berth? Does it taste more like pork? Buy Hansen Farms meats and never wonder where your meat came from again.":devil:
