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Salvage ideas?

This reminds me of an early CT game where the players wanted to go and salvage stuff from the Battle of Two Suns battlespace - oh the fun they had avoiding interdiction satellites, still live ordnance, active ship intruder defence systems (including robots ;) ), radiation spills, etc.

Happy days
 
This reminds me of an early CT game where the players wanted to go and salvage stuff from the Battle of Two Suns battlespace - oh the fun they had avoiding interdiction satellites, still live ordnance, active ship intruder defence systems (including robots ;) ), radiation spills, etc.

Happy days
 
Watching Firefly on DVD and I am thinking of salvage again.
Salvage Value.

Obviously the Major components are highly desirable.
Each worth about ¼ the book value when new.
Turrets 1 ton
Lasers ¼ ton each?
Fire Control system 1 ton
Computers 1-4 tons average
Power Plants (radiation hazard?)

But what else?
Avionics
Vaccsuits
Cables and wires . . .

Salvage value and repair of major components. I need something quick and easy that can be done at the table.

I salvage a “B” type Maneuver drive with damage. How do you addresses repair costs so it can be sold? Say it took one CT “hit” and is reduced to the performance of an “A” drive. How much does it cost to repair it and bring it back up to full “B” drive performance.

Or perhaps as a % of damage
A 10MCr TL-12 Widget with 10% damage will cost 1 MCr to repair.

Or ¼ of the total dive cost per level it has been reduced due to damage for major components.
(Almost anything can be repaired but at some point it is no longer worth it.)

Or assuming my damaged Maneuver Drive B is still functional how much can I sell it for? How about one quarter of the original value of the current level of performance.

Maneuver Drive B currently performing at the level of an A drive is worth MCr 2.5
Maneuver Drive D currently performing at the level of an A drive is worth MCr 2.5 as well
Maneuver Drive D currently performing at the level of a C drive is worth MCr 5

Scrap value is always about 2% o fits original value. Maneuver drive D reduced to scrap is worth Cr 500,000

Incidentals
(2D x Modifier) x 100
1. Hulk, previously and repeatedly stripped, or open to habitable elements.
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12. Untouched and still pressurized
 
Watching Firefly on DVD and I am thinking of salvage again.
Salvage Value.

Obviously the Major components are highly desirable.
Each worth about ¼ the book value when new.
Turrets 1 ton
Lasers ¼ ton each?
Fire Control system 1 ton
Computers 1-4 tons average
Power Plants (radiation hazard?)

But what else?
Avionics
Vaccsuits
Cables and wires . . .

Salvage value and repair of major components. I need something quick and easy that can be done at the table.

I salvage a “B” type Maneuver drive with damage. How do you addresses repair costs so it can be sold? Say it took one CT “hit” and is reduced to the performance of an “A” drive. How much does it cost to repair it and bring it back up to full “B” drive performance.

Or perhaps as a % of damage
A 10MCr TL-12 Widget with 10% damage will cost 1 MCr to repair.

Or ¼ of the total dive cost per level it has been reduced due to damage for major components.
(Almost anything can be repaired but at some point it is no longer worth it.)

Or assuming my damaged Maneuver Drive B is still functional how much can I sell it for? How about one quarter of the original value of the current level of performance.

Maneuver Drive B currently performing at the level of an A drive is worth MCr 2.5
Maneuver Drive D currently performing at the level of an A drive is worth MCr 2.5 as well
Maneuver Drive D currently performing at the level of a C drive is worth MCr 5

Scrap value is always about 2% o fits original value. Maneuver drive D reduced to scrap is worth Cr 500,000

Incidentals
(2D x Modifier) x 100
1. Hulk, previously and repeatedly stripped, or open to habitable elements.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7
8.
9
10
11.
12. Untouched and still pressurized
 
While not as dramatic as taking a whole manuver drive or turret, what about the little luxuries one could find in a ship's staterooms or captain's quarters. If you're salvaging a downed liner or yacht, I suspect it would be worthwhile to rip out each and every bit of bejeweled fixture and trim.

Heck, as with the modern antique market, the craftsmanship evident and artisanal quality of the work done on a liner or yacht's furniture alone could be worth quite a bit. Not as much as a salvagable jump drive (although there may be extreme cases) obviously, but worth some serious credits none the less. And more importantly, such items would probably have a very high mass to value ratio.
 
While not as dramatic as taking a whole manuver drive or turret, what about the little luxuries one could find in a ship's staterooms or captain's quarters. If you're salvaging a downed liner or yacht, I suspect it would be worthwhile to rip out each and every bit of bejeweled fixture and trim.

Heck, as with the modern antique market, the craftsmanship evident and artisanal quality of the work done on a liner or yacht's furniture alone could be worth quite a bit. Not as much as a salvagable jump drive (although there may be extreme cases) obviously, but worth some serious credits none the less. And more importantly, such items would probably have a very high mass to value ratio.
 
Good thought on the smaller items salvage Cad Lad.

Relatedly I've often wondered just what makes that 4tons of mostly empty space per stateroom worth half a MCr. Maybe some very valuable and valued compact life support modules in the ceiling spaces that can be quickly and easily removed yes? Much easier to get and sell than a jump drive or power plant.

Same thing with lowberths, though of less value. IMTU they are plug in modules and designed to be swapped in and out with ease and maneuvered down corridors, so as salvage they are dead easy to take and hold their resale value much better.

Of course if you're not the first scavenger on the wreck the easy pickings are long gone and you may have to settle for the harder cheaper stuff like using lasers to cut up the hull plates to sell for scrap.
 
Good thought on the smaller items salvage Cad Lad.

Relatedly I've often wondered just what makes that 4tons of mostly empty space per stateroom worth half a MCr. Maybe some very valuable and valued compact life support modules in the ceiling spaces that can be quickly and easily removed yes? Much easier to get and sell than a jump drive or power plant.

Same thing with lowberths, though of less value. IMTU they are plug in modules and designed to be swapped in and out with ease and maneuvered down corridors, so as salvage they are dead easy to take and hold their resale value much better.

Of course if you're not the first scavenger on the wreck the easy pickings are long gone and you may have to settle for the harder cheaper stuff like using lasers to cut up the hull plates to sell for scrap.
 
So could a wine bottle survive a vacuum environment assuming a plastic cork or would the pressure pop out the stopper?
How about heavily lacquered wood furniture?
 
So could a wine bottle survive a vacuum environment assuming a plastic cork or would the pressure pop out the stopper?
How about heavily lacquered wood furniture?
 
Well, originally I was imagining all of the fine platinum and gold trim that frames the doorways of my super-baroque stateroom. I was thinking that the light fixtures, mirrors, and vid screens were all probably framed with very expensive decorative--word-loss: what do you call elaborate, lace-like, metal work done for decorative purposes--accents that one could easily sell.

As for the furniture and delecacies themselves, I would be more worried about a crash situation. If a ship must be abandoned, or all hands are lost, I imagine that the absolute best, first class staterooms would automatcially seal in an hull-breach emergency. Both to save the wealthy passengers and their goods.

Think of it as a more frivolous Star Viking operation...Your party cutting into a century old stateroom, as they take in the decadence of the Golden Age of the Imperium, a bottle of two-hundred-year old Terran wine floats past, along with the floating bodies of the two nobles who sat and drank in the stateroom, waiting for rescue until their back-up life support finally cut out.
 
Well, originally I was imagining all of the fine platinum and gold trim that frames the doorways of my super-baroque stateroom. I was thinking that the light fixtures, mirrors, and vid screens were all probably framed with very expensive decorative--word-loss: what do you call elaborate, lace-like, metal work done for decorative purposes--accents that one could easily sell.

As for the furniture and delecacies themselves, I would be more worried about a crash situation. If a ship must be abandoned, or all hands are lost, I imagine that the absolute best, first class staterooms would automatcially seal in an hull-breach emergency. Both to save the wealthy passengers and their goods.

Think of it as a more frivolous Star Viking operation...Your party cutting into a century old stateroom, as they take in the decadence of the Golden Age of the Imperium, a bottle of two-hundred-year old Terran wine floats past, along with the floating bodies of the two nobles who sat and drank in the stateroom, waiting for rescue until their back-up life support finally cut out.
 
Kurega Gikur
So could a wine bottle survive a vacuum environment assuming a plastic cork or would the pressure pop out the stopper?
How about heavily lacquered wood furniture?
Could a cap or glass withstand the 1 atm pressure differential of space? Probably. The pressure differential isn't such a big thing to withstand, only about 15 psi.

If were talking space here, the low temperature has got to be the big problem, freezing that wine solid. Bad for a red, good for a white? The freezing of the wine may break the bottle.

The freezing is probably also going to do a number on the lacquer. If you salvage this furniture, however, don't refinish it! ;)
 
Kurega Gikur
So could a wine bottle survive a vacuum environment assuming a plastic cork or would the pressure pop out the stopper?
How about heavily lacquered wood furniture?
Could a cap or glass withstand the 1 atm pressure differential of space? Probably. The pressure differential isn't such a big thing to withstand, only about 15 psi.

If were talking space here, the low temperature has got to be the big problem, freezing that wine solid. Bad for a red, good for a white? The freezing of the wine may break the bottle.

The freezing is probably also going to do a number on the lacquer. If you salvage this furniture, however, don't refinish it! ;)
 
Originally posted by Ptah:
The freezing is probably also going to do a number on the lacquer. If you salvage this furniture, however, don't refinish it! ;)
Assuming only the finish is shot, but the piece is still functional, this could be a good thing. Done right, the salvager could start a whole new style and sub-industry.

Look at this! This wonderful piece of furniture uses vacuum distressing! See how wonderful the texturing becomes!

And so on ...

Of course, by 1105, this is probably been in and out of style at least 500 times.
 
Originally posted by Ptah:
The freezing is probably also going to do a number on the lacquer. If you salvage this furniture, however, don't refinish it! ;)
Assuming only the finish is shot, but the piece is still functional, this could be a good thing. Done right, the salvager could start a whole new style and sub-industry.

Look at this! This wonderful piece of furniture uses vacuum distressing! See how wonderful the texturing becomes!

And so on ...

Of course, by 1105, this is probably been in and out of style at least 500 times.
 
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