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Small Staterooms

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Q.Can we use small staterooms for starships in Mega Traveller?:toast::confused:

Note.
1.Only the Hard Times uses small staterooms for starship in design of Fel-De-Lance Class DE and Purcell-Class Express Boat Tender.
2.There are no sample in the other Mega Traveller books.
3.There is the other Purcell design in Traveller Digest.
4.In the Classic Traveller, we can use small staterooms for only small craft.
 
Q.Can we use small staterooms for starships in Mega Traveller?:toast::confused:

Note.
1.Only the Hard Times uses small staterooms for starship in design of Fel-De-Lance Class DE and Purcell-Class Express Boat Tender.
2.There are no sample in the other Mega Traveller books.
3.There is the other Purcell design in Traveller Digest.
4.In the Classic Traveller, we can use small staterooms for only small craft.

I recall that the Solomani in 'Solomani & Aslan' from DGP used smaller staterooms than the Imperials - whilst no longer strictly canon - it is MT.
 
Magmagmag,

I copied the below section from DonM's errata compilation, version 2.16, page 22. I think it answers your question.

Page 60, right column, Accommodations Section, Staterooms (correction and clarification): Ignore the values listed for dual occupancy staterooms; use the values in the Extended Accommodations table on page 82. The small stateroom as given in the Accommodations table is a “bare-bones” accommodation for one person—little more than a bed and a fresher. The “full” stateroom is a more deluxe accommodation, with a mini-kitchen, mini-lounge (table and nice couch or chairs), and so on. Thus the significant price difference. Notice that a half-stateroom does not equal a small stateroom. The two are different, which is intentional. The small stateroom equates to the small craft stateroom in High Guard. When allocating staterooms to a design, mix and match the two stateroom types to get whatever level of accommodation luxury you are designing. If you run into problems with the full stateroom approach, consider double occupancy for the low-ranking crewmembers. If on a really low budget, consider a small stateroom, but remember that two small staterooms require more power than one stateroom with double occupancy. As a last resort, double occupancy in a small stateroom can be used to solve problems; simply assume that the two crew members work on different shifts.


So the short answer is "yes" - hope this helps.
 
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Page 60, right column, Accommodations Section, Staterooms (correction and clarification):
As a last resort, double occupancy in a small stateroom can be used to solve problems; simply assume that the two crew members work on different shifts.

Hot-bunking, as in submarines.
 
Hot-bunking, as in submarines.

No, that would be two crew members sharing a 'Bunk'. A bunk is 1/2 the volume small stateroom and doesn't require any power.

MTRM p 82 said:
Only crew members may have bunks; passengers must have staterooms or low berths. Double occupancy of a small stateroom is possible if each occupant uses the room for 12 our of 24 hours. Double occupancy of a standard stateroom is possible on a constant basis.

I've used small staterooms in many of my personal designs for years. I just don't use them for passengers.

-Swiftbrook
 
No, that would be two crew members sharing a 'Bunk'. A bunk is 1/2 the volume small stateroom and doesn't require any power.
Somewhere, somehow, life support must be provided for everyone aboard. I've always assumed that normal stateroom volume included a slice of life support equipment sufficient to keep two people alive, even if the plan is that the stateroom will never be used by more than one person. Some sort of Imperial safety regulation or age-old tradition, or whatnot. And for a small stateroom, I assume LS for one person included. So it seems to me that when you begin hot-bunking small staterooms, you're going to put a strain on the life support systems.

BTW, hot-bunking is a term derived from people sharing a bunk, but it can be used for people sharing a stateroom bed.

I've used small staterooms in many of my personal designs for years. I just don't use them for passengers.
Because there's just no people willing to undergo the discomforts of a small stateroom for a week just to save a couple of months' salary.


Hans
 
There is a reason we* put double occupancy rules into T20.


* We meaning Hunter after badgering from the playtest leads, and IIRC, Dr Skull, myself, and one other poster bashing about the numbers. There really is math behind the numbers. It got rounded to the nearest Cr1000.
 
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