Using MegaTraveller in CTPlus

[robject]

=> This is related to the "reinventing" and "Book 9" discussions.

CTPlus, in a nutshell, is one of many "best-grown" Classic Traveller rulesets. It encompasses post-LBB rules that are (a) clear popular winners, or (b) helpful improvements to the LBBs stopgaps, or (c) something along those lines.

It includes the DGP task system, at least in its basic form.
It includes the Psionics chapter from Traveller *FOUR*.
It includes house rules, such as my "Book 2 Plus" rules that uses some Traveller5 to fix things in Book 2 ship design that annoyed me.
It imports the T5 Burden attribute to remove a couple of those combat tables (and thereby allow GunMaker to work for CT).

It may never be "finished", of course.



CHARACTER GENERATION: MT Players' Manual

Yesterday, Wil reminded me that we have already discussed MegaTraveller's character creation being an evolution of Citizens of the Imperium.

What never quite hit home, though, is that it is Good for CTPlus. Close to ideal. Resonates. Yeah it's a bit skilly, and some of the careers seem a bit niche, but so what?

 

[MichaelSTee]

Rob, is there a definitive list of what is in CTPlus?

 

[infojunky]

=> This is related to the "reinventing" and "Book 9" discussions.

CTPlus, in a nutshell, is one of many "best-grown" Classic Traveller rulesets. It encompasses post-LBB rules that are (a) clear popular winners, or (b) helpful improvements to the LBBs stopgaps, or (c) something along those lines.

It includes the DGP task system, at least in its basic form.
It includes the Psionics chapter from Traveller *FOUR*.
It includes house rules, such as my "Book 2 Plus" rules that uses some Traveller5 to fix things in Book 2 ship design that annoyed me.
It imports the T5 Burden attribute to remove a couple of those combat tables (and thereby allow GunMaker to work for CT).

It may never be "finished", of course.



CHARACTER GENERATION: MT Players' Manual

Yesterday, Wil reminded me that we have already discussed MegaTraveller's character creation being an evolution of Citizens of the Imperium.

What never quite hit home, though, is that it is Good for CTPlus. Close to ideal. Resonates. Yeah it's a bit skilly, and some of the careers seem a bit niche, but so what?

Ok, I can see using MT basic Character generation, though I would go through and consolidate or change many skills.

Though I balk at DGPs task system as written, I have always leaned towards something akin to MgT1ed system.

Right now my question is wether to use a AHL/Striker derived combat system or something along the lines of Mongoose, i.e. dice vs armor directly.

 

[Dragoner]

Here is an online MegaTraveller Character Generator: http://www.traveller.chromeblack.com/files/mtpcgen.html

 

[infojunky]

Here is an online MegaTraveller Character Generator: http://www.traveller.chromeblack.com/files/mtpcgen.html

Now if they would do the Aliens as well.

 

[infojunky]

The question occurs what other bits would you use in CT+?

 

[mike wightman]

The only thing I regularly use from MT is the special duty roll for basic careers.

 

[aramis]

For me, I'd use Char Gen and the shooting Rules, but tweaked slightly.

To Hit made by 0	×0.5	Retain fractions until Pen::AV mod included.
To Hit made by N && N >0	+(N-1)
Pen::AV	Dmg
Pen ≥ 2×AV	×2	Pen-(2×AV) to additional target directly behind.
Pen ≥ AV && Pen < AV×2	×1
Pen ≥ AV/2 && Pen < AV	×0.5
Pen ≥ AV/4 && Pen < AV/2	×0.25
Pen ≥ AV/10 && Pen < AV/4	×0.1	Round final up vs flexible or incomplete coverage armor; fully enclosed rigid, round down.

I also am quite fond of the MT Task system, but would use Att/3 for att as assets, and change the TNs to 4/8/12/16/20. And make it clear that Terms/2 are effectively an asset for knowledge about a given service, & rank about who's who in that service.

 

[mike wightman]

And the above is why I don't use MT combat resolution, it is far too complicated for what it does.

I do keep the idea of penetration - weapons are tagged as low or high.

 

[aramis]

And the above is why I don't use MT combat resolution, it is far too complicated for what it does.

I do keep the idea of penetration - weapons are tagged as low or high.

And I switched to Striker/AHL as soon as I got ahold of them. Never cared for the tables in Bk1. Thing is, what I've done is two changes... 1st, reduce the impact of high skill on damage for bigger weapons, but amplify it for the smaller ones. Likewise, it looks cumbersome, but it's 1/10 if 1/10, 1/4 if 1/4, 1/2 if 1/2, full if full, and double if double. It snaps along in play way better, because the breakpoints are more memorable. (It also increases the damage done a good bit.)

 

[mike wightman]

I used AHL/Striker for a while too, pen vs armour is pretty easy to do but the conversion to damage/damage dice requires a table (eventually memorised but still a pain). The armour removing damage dice or armour reducing overall damage is a lot easier to do and doesn't require calculating a half a quarter and a tenth of damage after comparing a penetration equal to or greater than threshold.

 

[kilemall]

I used AHL/Striker for a while too, pen vs armour is pretty easy to do but the conversion to damage/damage dice requires a table (eventually memorised but still a pain). The armour removing damage dice or armour reducing overall damage is a lot easier to do and doesn't require calculating a half a quarter and a tenth of damage after comparing a penetration equal to or greater than threshold.

I ended up with Striker and dice damage, two tables for armor pen and location effects, add a die for HE/blunt effects, skill helps location so increases damage, etc.

Worth it to me cause it bothers me that a pistol shot to the head usually won’t kill. Also, differing armor values for whether you have a vest or helmet vs say uncovered arms.