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What would various nations on Earth today have as government and law levels?

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It seems a straight forward question, but the way law levels and governments are described there's really a lot of wiggle room. How would you rate them? Here's some I rated:

US: Gov: 4/8 Yes, the US has a representative democracy but on a daily basis people deal with a civil service bureaucracy that runs the government.
LL: 4/5 It depends on exactly where you are in the country. Some places allow concealed carry, others don't. Of course it might go up to 6 depending on what other legal aspects you look at.

Japan: Gov 4/8 for the same reasons above.
LL: 6/7 You can get weapons in Japan with permits. The requirements are pretty strict. Some other aspects go as high as 8, maybe 9.

Germany(today): Gov: 4/8 LL: 6/7 Again you can possess weapons to some extent. Some aspects go up to 8.

Germany (Nazi): Gov A/8 LL: A. While the weapon aspect might put it at 7 or 8, the fact that movement was controlled by 1942 and there is a secret police etc., really puts it at A or more.

UK: Gov: 4/8 It isn't a monarchy because the King / Queen is not head of state in reality. They are just a figurehead.
LL: 7/8 This is due to the strict gun control laws but you have to factor in the now widespread use of surveillance cameras and such too.

Cuba: Gov: F/9 Yes, there is a Oligarchy (the Castro family) running the country but the day to day operation is a civil service bureaucracy that doesn't answer to the public.
LL: E Secret police, informants on every corner, political repression.

Saudi Arabia: Gov: D While there is a king, the real power is held by the House of Saud as a whole and through religious Mullahs who exert considerable influence.
LL: E The government is repressive. Justice is often one-sided and brutal. There are religious police everywhere controlling things.

India: Gov 8. The country is really a civil service bureaucracy more than anything else.
LL: 8 There is repression of some minority groups. Slavery is tacitly allowed although it isn't called that. A caste system is still used to some degree.

China: Gov: 9 The nation is really run by an impersonal bureaucracy. The head of state heads the bureaucracy for all intents.
LL: 8/9. Repression does exist. Laws like how many children you can have are in place. Political dissent is not allowed. Control of information is done by the government.

N. Korea: Gov F. There is a single dictator that has god-like status. His popularity is often forced rather than real.
LL: J Every facet of life is controlled to some degree. Justice is completely arbitrary.

This makes for an interesting exercise, as it gives you some perspective on what a system / planet would be like in the game.
 
It seems a straight forward question, but the way law levels and governments are described there's really a lot of wiggle room. How would you rate them? Here's some I rated:

US: Gov: 4/8 Yes, the US has a representative democracy but on a daily basis people deal with a civil service bureaucracy that runs the government.
LL: 4/5 It depends on exactly where you are in the country. Some places allow concealed carry, others don't. Of course it might go up to 6 depending on what other legal aspects you look at.

Japan: Gov 4/8 for the same reasons above.
LL: 6/7 You can get weapons in Japan with permits. The requirements are pretty strict. Some other aspects go as high as 8, maybe 9.

Germany(today): Gov: 4/8 LL: 6/7 Again you can possess weapons to some extent. Some aspects go up to 8.

Germany (Nazi): Gov A/8 LL: A. While the weapon aspect might put it at 7 or 8, the fact that movement was controlled by 1942 and there is a secret police etc., really puts it at A or more.

UK: Gov: 4/8 It isn't a monarchy because the King / Queen is not head of state in reality. They are just a figurehead.
LL: 7/8 This is due to the strict gun control laws but you have to factor in the now widespread use of surveillance cameras and such too.

Cuba: Gov: F/9 Yes, there is a Oligarchy (the Castro family) running the country but the day to day operation is a civil service bureaucracy that doesn't answer to the public.
LL: E Secret police, informants on every corner, political repression.

Saudi Arabia: Gov: D While there is a king, the real power is held by the House of Saud as a whole and through religious Mullahs who exert considerable influence.
LL: E The government is repressive. Justice is often one-sided and brutal. There are religious police everywhere controlling things.

India: Gov 8. The country is really a civil service bureaucracy more than anything else.
LL: 8 There is repression of some minority groups. Slavery is tacitly allowed although it isn't called that. A caste system is still used to some degree.

China: Gov: 9 The nation is really run by an impersonal bureaucracy. The head of state heads the bureaucracy for all intents.
LL: 8/9. Repression does exist. Laws like how many children you can have are in place. Political dissent is not allowed. Control of information is done by the government.

N. Korea: Gov F. There is a single dictator that has god-like status. His popularity is often forced rather than real.
LL: J Every facet of life is controlled to some degree. Justice is completely arbitrary.

This makes for an interesting exercise, as it gives you some perspective on what a system / planet would be like in the game.

This is one of the things I like about the 2300AD line you get all different types of Gov. just on Earth, if you go for the OTU it's the SolCo that gets all the fun.
 
Great topic, but WAY too political.

[m;]Moved to the Political Pulpit (Sorry, available with MOOT membership only)

The only place where current (post WW2) politics are allowed on COTI. [/m;]

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