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What's Out There Beyond Known Space?

Looking at the TU on the travellermap at the Galactic scale one realizes what a tiny place it is.

What does canon have to say about the rest (and where/in which books?)?

There's the Zhodani expedition to the core. What else is there? Races, civilizations, sikkrits, anything.
 
"Here there be Dragons."

...about sums it up, and that's the way I like it :) Leaves it to refs to embellish and provide new frontiers for exploration.

Well there is that Empress Wave. And iirc from Knightfall the implication of more systems and aliens far beyond through the gates.
 
There is also lots of life, Jim, just not life as we know it... The Traveller Universe that life is abundant. However, beyond Chartered Space (and that is a pretty broad description that would include the Persus Expeditions & Z. Core journeys) there is also a lot of nothing. For as close as one gets to the Core the radiation levels would increase significantly frying out circuits, etc. Rimward, the stars would get rather sparce.

Canon both T5 & SJG allow for something like a kiloparsec drive. This would allow you to Star Trek - the original series, if you like using Traveller...good thing most of the FASA adventures were written by the Keiths...hence very Traveller like.
 
According to Star Trek, just outside the spiral arm of the galaxy is...

...is...


...IS...

...IS...

THE GALACTIC ENERGY BARRIER that will up your ESP rating and make you have god-like psychic powers!


OH NOOOOOOOO!!!!!
 
funny thing... the Kelvan modifications allowed passing through it harmlessly... :)
 
I actually set my aborted Russian Space Trillion Credit Squadron game pretty far to rimward in a cluster just beyond one of the great rifts. I sometimes consider going back to it for rpging purposes. I had most of the sector mapped out. The different factions were developed to the point where it might have made for a fun gaming experience.
 
I always wanted to set a campaign rimward of Solomani space, maybe a long range probe sent in search of technology and resources or maybe isolationists looking to start anew far from Terran influence.

There could still be some Ancients or even other First Ones out on the rim. Maybe Andromedan or Magellanic sleeper ships dispatched a billion years ago or even the colonies they established when they got here (insert your Kelvins here). Or other off-shoots of humaniti, engineered for purposes long forgotten, isolated on their worlds by a lack of jump drive technology or just very little lanthanum in their planet's crust.

I like the idea of cold, lonely, terrifying space, far from the calvary or the security of civilization, where Travellers only have themselves to count on.
 
funny thing... the Kelvan modifications allowed passing through it harmlessly... :)

True.

I've wondered about that episode. I watched it again recently, and the energy barrier can be taken to be encapsulating the entire galaxy or just in that one section of space.

And...is that the same energy barrier they go through in Trek V: The Final Frontier?


SCRATCH THAT...

(Found this on the net...)

In the science fiction universe of Star Trek, the Great Barrier is an energy field that surrounds the Milky Way Galaxy. Also referred to as "The Galactic Barrier", the energy field completely encompasses the galactic disk and prevents conventional starship travel beyond the edge of the galaxy.

A non-canon theory has suggested the barrier is not meant to keep explorers "in" the galaxy, but to keep something from beyond the galaxy "out". It is also uncertain wether or not the energy barrier is a natural or artificially created phenomena.

Although numerous attempts to travel outside the galaxy have been made, with various degrees of success, the barrier usually damages or destroys ships that try to pass through it. It also has psychoactive effects as some personnel gain powerful telekinetic and telepathic abilities if traveling near the barrier.

The barrier appears as a pinkish band of light, and upon entering it, a ship is surrounded by dancing clouds of colorful energy. Inside the barrier, a ship's power and engines shut down and navigational systems become erratic.

The Great Barrier made its first appearance in the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Where No Man Has Gone Before" where the crew of the USS Enterprise had to deal with those affected by the psychic powers of the field.

It was also encountered again in the episode "Is There in Truth No Beauty?" where the Enterprise becomes lost within the barrier and is saved by the incredible navigational skills of an alien passenger.

The barrier had also damaged an alien ship from outside the galaxy, in the episode "By Any Other Name", stranding the aliens in our galaxy until they try to steal the Enterprise and return to their home galaxy.

There is also a second Great Barrier at the core of the Milky Way, which was first revealed in the motion picture Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. This energy barrier at the core was thought to be impenetrable like the one at the edge of the galaxy, however it was revealed that only mankind's natural fear of the unknown was keeping those from entering it.
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S4, you forget that the CT is not standing for Classic Trek. Jumpspace is not the same as Warp. :D

The galactic barrier may indeed exist in the Traveller Universe (stranger things have been known to exist) but assume that it is not so much a barrier but a membrane that players would have calculate the different movements of different stars to figure when the next gateway would open. Not having watched too much Trek is there not something called the Briar that could account for this. Traveller has deadspace, so why not also Wildspace. If push comes to shove, I am sure even EDG could come up some real world phenomena that would replicate what we are talking about. I would view the trip to the barrier as the ultimate in Traveller Grand Explorations...one could have it as a joint venture Imperial-Solomani that must pass through Hiver Space skirting with the wormhole in Ringworld in the Hinterlands. Creating all the intrigue and politics of the multi-Major Race mission that would bring before going where no sentient has gone before.

Or perhaps, the players ship has misjumped beyond the barrier...what then?
 
S4, you forget that the CT is not standing for Classic Trek. Jumpspace is not the same as Warp. :D

And not forgetting that just getting to the galactic edge to find said barrier is a very very very very long trip, even at J6 :) It's some 24 sectors from Capital to the edge (if the map on travellermap.com is to be trusted). So figure about 13 years to get there at good travel speed :) Even a single misjump from Charted Space isn't going to do it. Not even a 36 parsec one. It's about 960 parsecs.

Makes one wonder if maybe some mission hasn't been out there though. Certainly closer than the core.
 
960 parsecs you say?

160 jump 6 - just over 6 years to get there assuming a jump per fortnight.

7-8 years at jump 5.

10 years at jump 4.

Course the solomani have tried it ;)
 
Another thing to consider is that the terrans have had jump 3 for several thousand years - more than enough time to get there and back a few times.

That sidebar in DGP's Solomani and Aslan always did intrigue me - the Solomani launched rimward expeditions that were away a long time. Wonder what they found...
 
Ah I was just messing around with the Travellermap.com core route run, and if anyone knows the anser to this, whats with the wide swath of destroyed systems? Nearly all of the last sub-sector map is asteriod systems, and I mean every hex is filled, I only assume there are stars in the hexes, and I may be wrong on that count.

When I get home or tommorow morning I will be posting the contents of a shipment from Crazy Egors of traveller goodies.
 
I rather like the idea that someone shared earlier...about the Marc having another greater rift and other either side for 36 parsec there is nothing but destroyed systems. As Grandfather's children used the area to duke it out.

With Empress Wave rearing its ugly head just as they get past the 36 parsec mark...but naturally, this would have to be much earlier in the history of the OTU or simply one of the Zhodani missions.

I once toyed with the idea of Dark Nebula expeditions just after the Rim War. I could easily port those ideas into the Grand Explorations (Core or Rim).
  • Essentially it had a group of characters who served on a dreadnought (because I was going to be playing with newbies...and I wanted a situation where if a character died the story could still go on).
  • In the Nebula, there existed wormholes that opened vistas beyond Chartered Space (you can see Voyager here but I hardly watched the show).
  • These occurances were random but usually there was some sort of scientific key that would lead back to the Solomani Rim (shades of Battlestar Galactica).
  • The Aslan (ie Klingons a la Classic Trek) were also exploring the Nebula and bumping & going head-to-head with an expanding Solomani Republic/Confederation (see Enterprise).
This way I could keep many elements of the OTU but liberally borrow from all other sources including my ancient collection FASA Star Trek & Legend of the Five Rings for Aslan outposts.
 
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