Why are Edu and Soc necessary?

[xdiox]

Originally posted by stofsk:
...Well, where does that leave something like Wisdom, which I always imagined to be 'knowledge gained from life experience'? How do you treat Wisdom then?...

I've always looked at the wisdom stat as being a meter of how much commonsense the character has. Also, a measure of how 'grounded' vs. how 'flighty' will the character be.

 

[mike wightman]

I use Wisdom as a combination of commonsense and willpower.

 

[Valarian]

As I understand it, SOC and EDU were brought in to T20 because they are in the other Traveller rulesets. In pure D20 terms, they don't serve any purpose. The skills attributed to EDU could easily apply to INT instead. However, they add a flavour to the ruleset that makes it Traveller.

If I were to dump any, I'd get rid of EDU. Reassign the EDU skills to INT (or possible WIS if applicable). Keep SOC and PSI to perform the role they've been allocated. This would keep T20 in line with the D20 rules, and still give it the flavour.

 

[stofsk]

I disagree, I know I originally started this thread but I've been convinced that EDU and SOC are necessary. I like the house rule that an EDU bonus gives you an extra skill point.

 

[Valarian]

But INT already does this.

 

[stofsk]

Yeah, that's true. But I love skill points. I'm a skill whore.

 

[Valarian]

That's just being greedy

 

[flykiller]

just a side comment. IMTU education determines what schools a character may access. someone with edu 7- won't be sent to pilot school, for example. edu also supplies modifiers for success/failure of school completion.

 

[ravells]

Originally posted by stofsk:
Epicenter00's post got me thinking of something.

In the Handbook, Education is defined as being the Character's accumulated knowledge, from life experience and/or formal education (schooling, classes, on-the-job training I'd imagine as well).

Well, where does that leave something like Wisdom, which I always imagined to be 'knowledge gained from life experience'? How do you treat Wisdom then?

What a great thread.

Here's how I see it. Let's say a character's child asked the character, 'Daddy, where did I come from?'

A Character with a high Soc would tell the child to shush and that it is not fitting conversation.

A Character with a high Edu would give the child a load of books on the subject.

A Character with a high Int would explain the birds and the bees in a way that a child could understand.

A Character with a high Wis would tell the child to ask his mother.

Ravs