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Sgt Biggles

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I am looking for books or movies which a referee could use to get a feel for the Twilight world.

Books like, Stephen King's "The Stand" or unknown author, "Thor's Hammer".

Movies like the "The Postman" with Kevin Costner, (I didn't say they had to be good :rolleyes: ) or "Reign of Fire".

I have several in my collection but I'm betting there are many others I haven't heard of and that other Referee's would like to know about.

Thanks All.
 
Mad Max (the first one most clearly, but the others follow a downward spiral)

Boy and his Dog

Third World War (TV Movie with Rock Hudson, but it featured Spetsnaz and Yanks shooting it out over the Alaska Pipeline...)

The movie with the Sub cruising around after the apocalypse, down to Australia (name?)

Damnation Alley with George Peppard

The Postman

Def Con 4
 
The very one!

Dated, a wee bit yes. Most of these are. We haven't had many good post-apocalyptic visions recently, at least not realized on film.
 
Tis true kaladorn. Or rather our current/recent bogey-men are other than cold war commies with nukes (no offense intended, just a little cold war speak). We've had holy warriors, time/space aliens, big rocks from space, un-natural natural disasters and any host of bio/gene horrors to dwell on since
Oh for the good old days of duck and cover, a backyard fallout shelter and carbine for personal defense
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Time to dig in the golden oldies bin at the video store, there should be all kinds from the cold war era that with a little 'modernization' might work.

I recall one set in Europe that dealt with a modern conventional ground war invasion, I think, but the memory is too vague to provide much of a clue. It might have escalated into nuclear.

Ah, and then there was that odd b&w British one that starts with a bang (nuke dropped over London, and presumably the rest of the world) and then follows the survivors who were in the tube at the time and live there now. Hmm, might have been one much like it about the same time (also b&w I think) set in New York.

Another good one might be Twilight's Last Gleaming. A good source for some possible scenarios and look into missile silo ops.
 
Now there is an interesting twist for T2K... some sort of Armageddon or Deep Impact or Outbreak approach - big rocks or nasty bugs. That might do a lot to set the world up for the various other conflicts, etc.
 
Great!

I had forgoten about a Boy and His Dog. I hadn't heard of Def Con 4 or On The Beach. I will be watching them, provided I can find them, this weekend.

Keep 'em coming!! Thanks folks!
 
Hey Sarge!

How's about 2 more in the Bad Movie category...

"Cherry 2000"
and
"Six-String Samurai"!

In the better category,

"Mad Max".

The sequels are not as good in a T2K sense, but the first is very good at the society breakdown thing.

It just occurs to me, that a really good movie to show what it's like when an army starts breaking down is an old Sam Peckinpah classic:
"Cross of Iron".

"I'll show you where the Iron Crosses grow..."
Oberfeldwebel Steiner (James Coburn)
 
Omega Man?

Soylent Green?

V? (Im Sorry...)

V: The Final Battle? (really Sorry...)

Thx 1138?

Fharenheit 451?

Zardoz?

Last Man on Earth?

28 Days?

Logan's Run?

Gamma World? (Just Kidding...)

Battlefield Earth? (I am so Sorry...)

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Cross of Iron was a great movie. Ganidiirsi is right about it portraying the fruitlessness of combat in a losing situation. The soldiers stuck around Kalisz might have experienced a similar situation knowing a Polish Army and 3 soviet armies were ready to smash them.

Soylent Green was also a good movie, but like most things the book was the best experience.

Thanks Baron and Ganidiirsi.
 
I think there are a couple of other resources that would be good to look at. I get the feeling that T2K was based more on a situation like the 30 Years War, which reduced the population by 1/3 and many towns simply abandonded. For a more modern version, you could look at Afghanistan after the Soviets left and before the Taliban came to power.

Unfortunatly there is not much non-academic stuff on these periods, but there was a Rutger Hauer hower film on the TYW period (never saw it, so can't vouch for it) about a mercenary captain that decides the war is not worth it any more and helps a town defend itself against all the local armies in the area.

Just some thoughts,

Rob
 
Your welcome, Sarge.
You can also use many of the slew of Vietnam movies out there ("Platoon", etc) for atmosphere. A REALLY good post-apocalypse flick (without the Mutant Flesh-Eating Zombies) is "On The Beach".

Ranger, the movie you're looking for is called "Flesh and Blood". Jennifer Jason Leigh is in it too. Only reason I know that is because for years I thought it was Lea Thompson...DOH!
 
No Blade of Grass (1970),an English film about a world-wide destruction of the food supply though the misuse of a pesticide. A small group sets out from of London to an area where the leader says the pesticide hasn't been used. The group uses violence to solve problems and slides into feudalism.
 
Originally posted by Ganidiirsi O'Flynn:
Your welcome, Sarge.
You can also use many of the slew of Vietnam movies out there ("Platoon", etc) for atmosphere. A REALLY good post-apocalypse flick (without the Mutant Flesh-Eating Zombies) is "On The Beach".

Ranger, the movie you're looking for is called "Flesh and Blood". Jennifer Jason Leigh is in it too. Only reason I know that is because for years I thought it was Lea Thompson...DOH!
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Is Flesh and Blood any good?
 
The Ultimate Warrior with Yul Brynner and Max Von Sydow. Set about 20 years after a world-wide famine in the remains of New York city. Several small enclaves try to survive by hunting(pigeons) or terreace farming(tomatos). One community set in the former prision gets by stealing from the other communities. Yul Brynner plays a merc hired by Max Von Sydow(the Baron). No guns, but a fuedal system.
 
It's worth Mentioning that a lot of these movies were much better books.

On The Beach- is Nevil Shute's most famous work but he's a worthwile read. A little dated (he died in the 50's) but good stuff, several WWII novels and interwar or post war aviation novels. There the was "The Trustee from the Toolroom" which was a 'modern' treasure hunt.

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Other movies I dont' recall being mentioned.

"The Quiet Earth" -- What happens when you wake up and it appears everyone else is dead?

"Radioactive Dreams" -- The world blows up. Two brothers raised in a bunker on sam spade, and peter gunn, surface into the new world with the goal of being 'private dicks'. Amusing stupidity ensues.


Day Of the Triffids? -- I read the book, and I know there was an old black and white movie done on it...

oh.. and a depressing made for TV knock off of the 'On The Beach' concept. (the world ending with a wimper not a bang.)

"The Day After"
 
"By Dawn's Early Light" with Powers Booth, Rebecca Demorney (sp?) and James Earl Jones was a very good movie on how a nuclear exhange might happen.
Martin Landau as the President does a very good acting job, and Rip Torn as a general who advises the new president, the former Secretary of the Interior(Martin Landau is assumed killed in the nuclear hit on Washington)is almost over the top.
The ending is very dramatic and very exciting. I highly recommend it.
 
Originally posted by Garf:
It's worth Mentioning that a lot of these movies were much better books.
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And worth emphasizing with my total agreement.


Originally posted by Garf:
"The Quiet Earth" -- What happens when you wake up and it appears everyone else is dead?
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A New Zealand film right? I'm amazed anyone else has seen it if its the one I'm thinking of (no spoilers, it's worth seeing). You're the first I've seen mention it anywhere since I rented the vhs about 20 years ago
I had thought about mentioning it but it isn't quite a T2K theme idea, well not in the traditional sense anyway.
 
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