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paladin2019
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Is Flesh and Blood any good? </font>[/QUOTE]For the record, Rutger Hauer and his mercs take over a castle, not help out a town. Alternate title for this film is "The Sword and the Rose."
far-trader
SOC-14 10K
Hey there's one I had seen but forgotten, excellent for a possible set up of the game.
Oh and welcome aboard Chris, or rather "Look Captain we found another stowaway lurking down here."
for the initial fighting...
The Third World War by [IIRC] Sir J. Hacket
Team Yankee by Harold Colye. Actually, there is lots of good stuff by Colye to check out.
then on to the aftermath...
War Day by [IIRC] Witney Streiber
Yes, the same dude that did Communion. But before he was abducted by aliens, he did a really good post nuclear war book.
The Effects of Nuclear War, by [IIRC] the Office of Technology Assistance
Dated, but lots of juicy stuff here. Nice fictional account in one of the back appendix's about how a community survives the aftermath.
Alas, Babylon by ?
I haven't fully read this one, but what I've read sounds interesting. Nuclear War and its aftermath in early 1960's Florida.
Seven Days in May by ?
The diffenitive book on a milgov/civgov confrontation.
and some add on games [probably very difficult to find though]
Ultimatum by Yaquinto games
Press the Button! Board game simulates US/USSR Nuclear Exchange.
The Third World War series games by GDW
Theater level combat.
After the Holocaust by SPI
Macroeconomic game, following 4 succesor governments in the former US. Feed your people, get your industry going, and eventually build an army to smite your enemy.
And me personal favorite:
Nuclear War by Flying Buffalo Inc.
ALL HAIL THE SUPER GERM!
The Third World War by [IIRC] Sir J. Hacket
Team Yankee by Harold Colye. Actually, there is lots of good stuff by Colye to check out.
then on to the aftermath...
War Day by [IIRC] Witney Streiber
Yes, the same dude that did Communion. But before he was abducted by aliens, he did a really good post nuclear war book.
The Effects of Nuclear War, by [IIRC] the Office of Technology Assistance
Dated, but lots of juicy stuff here. Nice fictional account in one of the back appendix's about how a community survives the aftermath.
Alas, Babylon by ?
I haven't fully read this one, but what I've read sounds interesting. Nuclear War and its aftermath in early 1960's Florida.
Seven Days in May by ?
The diffenitive book on a milgov/civgov confrontation.
and some add on games [probably very difficult to find though]
Ultimatum by Yaquinto games
Press the Button! Board game simulates US/USSR Nuclear Exchange.
The Third World War series games by GDW
Theater level combat.
After the Holocaust by SPI
Macroeconomic game, following 4 succesor governments in the former US. Feed your people, get your industry going, and eventually build an army to smite your enemy.
And me personal favorite:
Nuclear War by Flying Buffalo Inc.
ALL HAIL THE SUPER GERM!
ccmarcellus
SOC-6
Thanks far-trader, I am, as they say in call-in radio shows, a "Long time listener, first time caller".Originally posted by far-trader:
Oh and welcome aboard Chris, or rather "Look Captain we found another stowaway lurking down here."
Chris
I consider it quite good. I am a sucker for Rutger Hauer flicks though. More info at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089153/
William
It's worth watching at least once IMO. Being a mid 80's Paul Verhoeven flick it's fairly brutal and realistic though he tends to hammer the point home a little much at times. (all in my opinion) Makes for a less entertaining film but good for getting a feel of the period.
Also there's an earlier film called The Last Valley with Michael Caine and Omar Sharif. It's just as good if not better.
The GMT game Thirty Years War has a online rulebook (pdf) that has some good notes on the period and also a bilbliography. I find the old Norton History of Modern Europe volume on the period (Age of Religious Wars 1559-1715) to be a good intro to the 30 Years War. It not only gives an account of the War itself but the reasons behind it, the aftermath and the whole range (political, economic, daily life, etc.).
Even a glance at the process of Germany's Unification from about this time (or before) to 1871 could provide some goodies. (and for that matter for a TNE or 2300 game) All those little kingdoms.
Casey
Was this the book that ended up with the singularly viscious afterword by the author about the Russians/Soviets?
Give me the mushroom cloud every day!Nuclear War by Flying Buffalo Inc.
ALL HAIL THE SUPER GERM!
You forgot Supremacy, with it's excellent little mushroom cloud pieces.
Another good book:
Pulling Through, by Dean Ing. A bit of a novel/survival guide rolled into one with a foreward by Spider Robinson.
jchurchill
SOC-12
Citizen: SOC-12
Hey Sarge!
How's about 2 more in the Bad Movie category...
"Cherry 2000"
I mentioned this movie just the other day and someone --no names please-- had a fit that I dare mention it.
You know who you are...
Day of the Triffids -- great book crummy movie
same author also wrote "Out of the Deep" or Out of the Deeps" About large sea dwelling cretures melting down the polar ice caps so they could flood coastal cities and kill humans
Hey Sarge!
How's about 2 more in the Bad Movie category...
"Cherry 2000"
I mentioned this movie just the other day and someone --no names please-- had a fit that I dare mention it.
You know who you are...
Day of the Triffids -- great book crummy movie
same author also wrote "Out of the Deep" or Out of the Deeps" About large sea dwelling cretures melting down the polar ice caps so they could flood coastal cities and kill humans
jchurchill
SOC-12
Flesh & Blood has some pretty good moments in it and a very young Jennifer Jason Leigh who spends large amounts of time completely naked and or simulating intercourse with Rutger Hauer. Not something you would show the 10th grade history class unless you enjoy changing jobs a lot.
It's worth watching at least once IMO. Being a mid 80's Paul Verhoeven flick it's fairly brutal and realistic though he tends to hammer the point home a little much at times. (all in my opinion) Makes for a less entertaining film but good for getting a feel of the period.
Also there's an earlier film called The Last Valley with Michael Caine and Omar Sharif. It's just as good if not better.
The GMT game Thirty Years War has a online rulebook (pdf) that has some good notes on the period and also a bilbliography. I find the old Norton History of Modern Europe volume on the period (Age of Religious Wars 1559-1715) to be a good intro to the 30 Years War. It not only gives an account of the War itself but the reasons behind it, the aftermath and the whole range (political, economic, daily life, etc.).
Even a glance at the process of Germany's Unification from about this time (or before) to 1871 could provide some goodies. (and for that matter for a TNE or 2300 game) All those little kingdoms.
Casey </font>[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. All those are good points as well. One more thought, the Italian Wars. Small city states duking it out for small shifts in power using mostly mercenaries and foreign powers to do their fighting. For T2K we still have the French, but who would play the rold of Maximilian's Holy Roman Empire?
It's worth watching at least once IMO. Being a mid 80's Paul Verhoeven flick it's fairly brutal and realistic though he tends to hammer the point home a little much at times. (all in my opinion) Makes for a less entertaining film but good for getting a feel of the period.
Also there's an earlier film called The Last Valley with Michael Caine and Omar Sharif. It's just as good if not better.
The GMT game Thirty Years War has a online rulebook (pdf) that has some good notes on the period and also a bilbliography. I find the old Norton History of Modern Europe volume on the period (Age of Religious Wars 1559-1715) to be a good intro to the 30 Years War. It not only gives an account of the War itself but the reasons behind it, the aftermath and the whole range (political, economic, daily life, etc.).
Even a glance at the process of Germany's Unification from about this time (or before) to 1871 could provide some goodies. (and for that matter for a TNE or 2300 game) All those little kingdoms.
Casey </font>[/QUOTE]I liked Flesh and Blood and The Last Valley there
is also the old Cromwell film made around the same date as The Last Valley. Historically inaccurate but nice pike&shot battles.
Another book I just thought of...
False Dawn
Chelsea Quinn Yarbro
1978
"It is the turn of the twenty-first century. War, disease, and pollution have made the Earth nearly unfit for human habitation. In America, food is scarce, and what food remains is quickly confiscated by the Pirates - a murderous band of raiders determined to save themselves and destroy the last stronghold of civilized human beings - the mutant population."
Actually some pretty good writing. One of the few books I've kept with me (and moved around the country with)...
False Dawn
Chelsea Quinn Yarbro
1978
"It is the turn of the twenty-first century. War, disease, and pollution have made the Earth nearly unfit for human habitation. In America, food is scarce, and what food remains is quickly confiscated by the Pirates - a murderous band of raiders determined to save themselves and destroy the last stronghold of civilized human beings - the mutant population."
Actually some pretty good writing. One of the few books I've kept with me (and moved around the country with)...
mandelkubb
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PapaGolfWhiskey
SOC-13
Originally by Far Trader
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Originally posted by Garf:
It's worth Mentioning that a lot of these movies were much better books.
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And worth emphasizing with my total agreement.
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Originally posted by Garf:
"The Quiet Earth" -- What happens when you wake up and it appears everyone else is dead?
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A New Zealand film right? I'm amazed anyone else has seen it if its the one I'm thinking of (no spoilers, it's worth seeing). You're the first I've seen mention it anywhere since I rented the vhs about 20 years ago I had thought about mentioning it but it isn't quite a T2K theme idea, well not in the traditional sense anyway.
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Dan "far-trader" Burns
Hmmm. I seem to recall it being a 'well-known' sci fi movie in my circle of friends in my late teens. but then, My friends were geeks too. Good movie. (I seem to recall)
'Triffids' Author John Wyndohm (SP?) has written a number of bordline horror/mainstream sci fi novels. at least two of which have been made into movies.
Triffids itself and another in which a whole town falls asleep. all the women bear blond haired blue eyed scarey kids nine months later and bad things start happening as the kids begin to walk talk and use their powers.
Day of the Chrysalids??? NO!
The Midwich Cuckoos (I knew I'd remember eventually)
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Originally posted by Garf:
It's worth Mentioning that a lot of these movies were much better books.
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And worth emphasizing with my total agreement.
quote:
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Originally posted by Garf:
"The Quiet Earth" -- What happens when you wake up and it appears everyone else is dead?
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A New Zealand film right? I'm amazed anyone else has seen it if its the one I'm thinking of (no spoilers, it's worth seeing). You're the first I've seen mention it anywhere since I rented the vhs about 20 years ago I had thought about mentioning it but it isn't quite a T2K theme idea, well not in the traditional sense anyway.
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Dan "far-trader" Burns
Hmmm. I seem to recall it being a 'well-known' sci fi movie in my circle of friends in my late teens. but then, My friends were geeks too. Good movie. (I seem to recall)
'Triffids' Author John Wyndohm (SP?) has written a number of bordline horror/mainstream sci fi novels. at least two of which have been made into movies.
Triffids itself and another in which a whole town falls asleep. all the women bear blond haired blue eyed scarey kids nine months later and bad things start happening as the kids begin to walk talk and use their powers.
Day of the Chrysalids??? NO!
The Midwich Cuckoos (I knew I'd remember eventually)
The Quiet Earth was a remake of American 50's film starring Harry Belefonte. I forget the name.
The Village of the Dammed was the one with the childern. A British film in the 50's. There were several sequels. Also, an American remake with Chistoper Reeve ( Superman I to whatever). Day of the Triffids also had a more modern remake telling the story of a group of survivors over several years.
The Village of the Dammed was the one with the childern. A British film in the 50's. There were several sequels. Also, an American remake with Chistoper Reeve ( Superman I to whatever). Day of the Triffids also had a more modern remake telling the story of a group of survivors over several years.