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[Gray Lensman]

10:22 am eastern (USA)

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I can't get it either.

 

[aramis]

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I can't get it either.

that's not the correct link, and not the link in the page. I just tested. It's working. And I do not deep-link for organizational reasons.

 

[Gray Lensman]

Doh!

I found it .
I am having a very dysfunctional day .
Can't seem to get $#&@ right :nonono:.

 

[aramis]

I found it .
I am having a very dysfunctional day .
Can't seem to get $#&@ right :nonono:.

Don't shoot me... but Cryton and I revised it further last night... and a new version will go up in a couple days... o: :rofl:

 

[Gray Lensman]

Don't shoot me... but Cryton and I revised it further last night... and a new version will go up in a couple days... o: :rofl:

That's OK, Seems like I need all the practice I can get lately (as in I seem to be :toast.

I do want to ask you a couple of ? but will for the new one

 

[magnusfalkirk]

Don't shoot me... but Cryton and I revised it further last night... and a new version will go up in a couple days... o: :rofl:

I finally got a copy of it downloaded. I'll check out the revised edition when you say it's up.

Magnus

 

[HiverLord]

Got the download from your sight. I'll take a look at it tonight (when I get time...).
Thanks again.

 

[HiverLord]

Aramis, got a look at those alternate system gen. rules. Nice work!
These are right up the alley I was looking into, but hadn't gotten to yet.
Thanks again.

 

[aramis]

Cool, thanks. The system frequencies are not quite real-world, but reasonably close, tho' somewhat "heavier" than the real universe. (More size 0,I, II, III, and IV than real universe.)

 

[HiverLord]

Cool, thanks. The system frequencies are not quite real-world, but reasonably close, tho' somewhat "heavier" than the real universe. (More size 0,I, II, III, and IV than real universe.)

That works, though, at least in a gaming universe. Realistically [o:], there's probably not much around the dwarf stars for explorers to find (in the way of possibly-habitable planets, anyway). But then again, I've never visited a red dwarf before, so...

 

[Gray Lensman]

Cool, thanks. The system frequencies are not quite real-world, but reasonably close, tho' somewhat "heavier" than the real universe. (More size 0,I, II, III, and IV than real universe.)

Actually,that was one of the questions I had. MT errata erases the O, B, Ia, Ib stars from the tables as well as the original text stating these stars are very rare and should be placed at most 1 or 2 per sector. In fact, they don't show on the generation tables at all, yet you included them.
I was just wondering as to your reasoning?

 

[aramis]

Actually,that was one of the questions I had. MT errata erases the O, B, Ia, Ib stars from the tables as well as the original text stating these stars are very rare and should be placed at most 1 or 2 per sector. In fact, they don't show on the generation tables at all, yet you included them.
I was just wondering as to your reasoning?

B stars are 1:800 in the real world... I included them because they are common enough to be 1 per 2 sectors. And I think they're cool.

The optional line puts B at around 1/(36*2) (1/72 or so), and O at 1/(36*216) = 1/7776. That's about right, really. B's should be about 10x that, so 4-5 on the 3d6 check roll for the O/B line. They are, however, more common in bigger stars; Honestly, use the alternate for size IV, V, and VI.

I put Sz 0 at 1/1296, Ia at 5/1296, Ib at 4/1296 (1/324), and II at 26/1296; III should be around 30/1296, but due to the 2d throw, is 72/1296...

As I said, it's big star heavy.

And I can't find a better catalog than I have readily. Oh, and the rate of B stars in the local area is 13:800... so I felt justified in including more than the accepted overall rate.

 

[Gray Lensman]

ARAMIS:

Put that way it makes sense.

In the Sector I am working one I am leaning towards more K and G stars for the habitable planets while not skewing the % too much (or trying not to anyway).

One of these days I will actually finish the %^&* thing.

HIVERLORD:

If you add in the MT errata, Dwarf Stars are not generated except as companions in Multiple systems.

I suppose this was done specifically to increase "habitable worlds". Guess it depends on how "Real World" you want to be .

Thanks Folks

 

[aramis]

Truth is, Gray Lensman, the letter code barely matters at all for habitability. FAR far more important is the star size. A G2I is NOT gonna have a habitable world without terraforming but an O0V might... sure, it's gonna have a much longer year than earth's... and it's gonna have a shorter overall lifespan, but it's still a main sequence star.


That Size I star goes "BOOM" not long after the planet's crust is fully finished cooling to liquid water temperatures.

 

[HG_B]

Truth is, Gray Lensman, the letter code barely matters at all for habitability. FAR far more important is the star size. A G2I is NOT gonna have a habitable world without terraforming

Astronomy isn't my thing but, I thought that Sol is a G2. What does the "I" denote?

 

[aramis]

Astronomy isn't my thing but, I thought that Sol is a G2. What does the "I" denote?

A stellar type is 3 standard components:

A letter for color (Usually one of, in order: OBAFGKM)
A single-digit number for subtype (0-9) of color
A Roman Numeral for Size, called "Luminosity Class", usually but not always uppercase. (0 I II III IV V VI VII, with VII sometimes being replaced by D)

Some add additional information following the Roman Numeral.
At some point, they discovered that there are two significantly different populations of Luminosity Class I stars, and divided it into Ia and Ib.

Spectrum O0 is the hottest currently found; L9 is the coolest fusing stars ... and hottest non-fusing brown dwarves. T0-Y9 are brown dwarf temperatures...
C and R are Carbon Stars, Class W Wolf-Rayet... and D_ is a whole different classification of Luminosity Class (Size) VII stars...

Luminosity Classes are also pretty much commensurate with sizes... Size 0 is HUGE, size VII are dwarves

 

[HG_B]

A stellar type is 3 standard components:

A letter for color (Usually one of, in order: OBAFGKM)
A single-digit number for subtype (0-9) of color
A Roman Numeral for Size, called "Luminosity Class", usually but not always uppercase. (0 I II III IV V VI VII, with VII sometimes being replaced by D)

Thanks for the quick lesson

Oh Be A Fine Girl Kiss Me. About all I remember from that class so long ago.

Okay, sounds like a G2 I would be a giant, possibly in transition and unstable. Still might have a habitable orbit but I would not want to settle there for any length of time.

p.s. Without looking it up, anyone remember this mnemonic: Bad Boys Ravish Only Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly ?

 

[HiverLord]

ARAMIS:

HIVERLORD:

If you add in the MT errata, Dwarf Stars are not generated except as companions in Multiple systems.

I suppose this was done specifically to increase "habitable worlds". Guess it depends on how "Real World" you want to be .

Thanks Folks

Sounds good. I don't actually have the MT rules (or any realistic set of rules, for that matter... long story) anymore. I'm starting a campaign using home brew rules, odds-and-ends pieces, and whatever I feel will work best for the campaign, but based mainly on 'The Window' gaming system. Call it an experiment...
(The two - so far - players aren't familiar with the rules or the universe, so I can do pretty much as I please and/or need to... [insert evil laugh here... :devil

Thanks for everything!

 

[ShapeShifter]

Thanks for the quick lesson

Oh Be A Fine Girl Kiss Me. About all I remember from that class so long ago.

Okay, sounds like a G2 I would be a giant, possibly in transition and unstable. Still might have a habitable orbit but I would not want to settle there for any length of time.

p.s. Without looking it up, anyone remember this mnemonic: Bad Boys Ravish Only Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly ?

Google is my friend:
http://riajose.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/bad-boys-ravish-only-young-girls-but-violet-gives-willingly/

 

[aramis]

Thanks for the quick lesson

Oh Be A Fine Girl Kiss Me. About all I remember from that class so long ago.

When I learned it, it was "Oh, Be A Fine Girl, Kiss Me Now Sweetheart"... but they have since reworked the low end from NS to LTY... What to use for LTY??? (Note that T and Y are almost entirely brown dwarves, tho' in theory, a cold dead V, VI, or VII core might also be in the T or Y ranges.)