CT/HG Computer Intelligence

[Adam Dray]

Yes, there is a reason: continued decreases in circuit size increase electron tunneling errors, and continued increases in overall chip size increase the error rate in production.

I get that, but that is Moore's Second Law (the cost of a semiconductor chip fab plant doubles every four years). That is, it gets more expensive to make chips. It doesn't necessarily stop you from making those chips.

Yes, it's getting harder to fulfill the prophecy of Moore's (first) Law, but they're still doing it, as far as I can tell.

Anyway, you're really terrible at pretending.

 

[kilemall]

So independent of the RL side discussion, anyone see game opportunities with this rule in place? Limits to be placed on man and machine and abuse of rules?

 

[McPerth]

So independent of the RL side discussion, anyone see game opportunities with this rule in place? Limits to be placed on man and machine and abuse of rules?

About abuse of the rules, as IIRC I already explained time ago, when I designed a fighter drone by using rules of CT:HG, CT:LBB8 and what is told in MT:101 vehicles about a robot brain as computer and crewmember, the intent was to show a friend that pilot limits in a MT TCS (in fact BCS) contest could be overcome this way to have many fighters.

Of course, even myself considered this as cheateing, as it breaks one of the limits TCS/BCS imposes...

Nonetheless, I used those drones in Traveller RPG, but I forced them to be directed by someone who had Fleet Tactics and Robot Operations for them to be fully efective (both skills can be gained in Staff College, taht would be the ones directing them). I guess that can be considered a limit on man and machine...

 

[Scratches]

I get that, but that is Moore's Second Law (the cost of a semiconductor chip fab plant doubles every four years). That is, it gets more expensive to make chips. It doesn't necessarily stop you from making those chips.

Yes, it's getting harder to fulfill the prophecy of Moore's (first) Law, but they're still doing it, as far as I can tell.

Anyway, you're really terrible at pretending.

The end of Moore's law, which is literally just counting transistors, is a good thing, it will spur us to develop new processes and ways of computing. Possibly even redefining what we currently understand as computing.

How we push past the wall is anybody's guess, but there are already great innovations in the works. Along the traditional research vein, graphene and maybe the rumored phosphorene transistors look interesting, as does Micron's Automata processor architecture. Or maybe somebody fathoms out how to make quantum computers.

Our solutions will possibly be amazing things we haven't even considered yet.

But I'd be happy to hit that 5nm wall if we could just make a functional jump drive.

 

[kilemall]

Just for those who like my IMTU computer rules, decided that the INT level drops one for each level of computer down from the astronic expensive level, and matching the HG +/- effect.

So an M5000 is INT 5, M500 is INT 4, M50 is INT 3, M5 is INT 2, etc.

 

[mike wightman]

Nice and simple - I like it