Ooh, pretty.
Not sure I can get the printer to do deck plans at the necessary resolution to fit onto a folded 8.5x11 sheet.
There's always 11 x 17.
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There's always 11 x 17.
Yeah.There's always 11 x 17.
Speaking of oversized paper...
The main deck plan will fit onto a Legal (8.5" x 14") sheet inside the printable margins, when printed at 1/2"=1.5m scale. The blue outline is the printable area of such a sheet. The side view is just tacked on to give an idea of what's going on along the centerline.
This is a work in progress. The forward outboard corners of the stateroom area get clipped to fit into the hull. Not too severely, but the ceiling and floor (2.2m separation) do get beveled in at those corners slightly.
The airlock just to the left of centerline has dorsal and ventral exits (it's about 2.2m tall at the inboard bulkhead, 2m tall at the outboard one -- low ceiling). The grey area ahead of it is for airlock air processing equipment (compressors, air tanks, filters, and sterilizers). The green area to the right of centerline, accessible by a maintenance hatch, is the Mod/1bis computer.
There is going to be a spot in the crawl-space just behind the iris valve that'll be wide enough for a person to turn around and start feet-first down the ladder in the main-deck hallway. Otherwise, it's 1m tall by 1.5m wide, bordered by electronics ("bridge" tonnage), until back at the hatches to the drive bay and the turret. I've changed the forward hatch there to an iris valve because personnel will have to go through it (down) feet-first when the artificial gravity is on -- there is a secondary control pad and remote manual crank about 1m aft of the hatch for that purpose.
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mike wightman
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I still think the best way is have the engineering compartment consist of both locations 12 and 16 - location 12 actually is half a metre to a metre lower than the "main crew deck" and location 16 is the upper gantry access to the drives. The rest of the loft ceiling slopes down to nothing more than a crawl space.
The air/raft bay and locataion 13 are on the same level as the crew deck.
The cockpit area is likewise a step down from the crew area.
The only bit that has to be "moved" is the cargo bay has to be aft not forward.
The air/raft bay and locataion 13 are on the same level as the crew deck.
The cockpit area is likewise a step down from the crew area.
The only bit that has to be "moved" is the cargo bay has to be aft not forward.
Maybe. Or 16 as an "drive bay attic," plus a similar "basement". Pull the engine room bulkhead aft one row of squares to compensate, and use "bridge" tonnage to re-renable the transverse corridor.
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In a vacc suit?
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I picture the drive compartment being a box 6m total height, but its floor is 1.5m below the level of the main crew deck. There is a metal grill walkway at crew deck height, easily opened to reveal the lower part of the drives. The upper gallery is likewise a metal walkway grill that grants access to the top of the drives.
Makes sense, and has that industrial ambiance going for it.
I'm seeing as I draw this up, how the original design turned out the way it did. Stateroom block, drive bay block -- staterooms are a little too big up front but can be stuffed in, sorta. Needs a crawlspace to go around the staterooms to make tactical combat interesting, maybe some space to hide in the nose landing gear well too. Then forget to highlight just how cramped these spaces and the front corners are, and hand it off to other writers and artists who make the problems worse.
Also -- and I think this mattered when they drew it up originally -- the habitable part of the deck plans (from the aft end to the forward-most part of the avionics crawlspace ahead of the cockpit) fits onto standard 8.5x11 paper!
That's also likely where the 24m width came from.
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I had to offset parts of the cockpit deck upward from the stateroom area, because the deck height of the seat platforms is set by the forward/outer corners of the compartment. Since it's not tall enough for easy access, the sides are raised from the centerline aisle. And the seats might not fit if they weren't tilted back slightly.
I need to verify that, though! The seats might need to be even lower, with the leg-rests down at platform level instead of slightly raised. I copied them from the acceleration couches of one of my other designs, which were modeled after reclining chairs. Might need to go with literal "seats in a sports car" instead -- including the bit where the inside of the front wheel wells limit the occupant footwell dimensions.)
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Sorry I should have read what I wrote - on my drawings the cockpit is indeed a step up, the crew deck is a step down.
I'm going to try building a scale model out of Amazon box cardboard.
I'm going to try building a scale model out of Amazon box cardboard.
if you do, pictures! I always love seeing how creative people are. And I have cardboard boxes...
Cereal boxes is probably a better source of cardboard for building, that corrugated stuff is a little big, but then it depends on how big you plan on making your model.
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The cardboard is 5mm thick, two layers is 1cm so I am going with a scale of 1cm to 1.5m.
And it is now built.
And it is now built.
Watching the time-lapse was was pretty cool. And the attention to detail is amazing! Sure, most of it is cardboard brown, but still...
The seats do fit. Might move them downwards slightly though for additional head-room, but it's not critical.
And here we go. Semi-final draft.
Numbered locations transferred from original with the following exceptions:
2a: This is the ship's Mod/1bis computer.
12: The drive room is 6m tall at the forward centerline. There is an expanded-metal grating deck at floor level, and an access hatch to the space under it. The drives are accessible from above and below, but there is little clearance. (Someone could hide in there...)
15: The Ship's Locker is an airtight compartment in the cargo hold. (Originally located forward of the Air/Raft.)
18: Turret and Drives Access Airlock (was Upper Gallery).
19: Was Forward Sensor Position and still is. It's also just a 1m tall x 1.5m wide crawl space. There is barely room for a person to turn around (sprawled flat to the deck) where the numbers are, and adjacent to the aft hatch. It is not possible to turn around elsewhere in the crawl space.
20: Main Personnel Airlock (was Forward Cargo Bay). Dorsal and ventral entry point. A ladder extends from the nose landing gear doors to facilitate entry from below. Airlock cycling/air purification equipment is adjacent.
Numbered locations transferred from original with the following exceptions:
2a: This is the ship's Mod/1bis computer.
12: The drive room is 6m tall at the forward centerline. There is an expanded-metal grating deck at floor level, and an access hatch to the space under it. The drives are accessible from above and below, but there is little clearance. (Someone could hide in there...)
15: The Ship's Locker is an airtight compartment in the cargo hold. (Originally located forward of the Air/Raft.)
18: Turret and Drives Access Airlock (was Upper Gallery).
19: Was Forward Sensor Position and still is. It's also just a 1m tall x 1.5m wide crawl space. There is barely room for a person to turn around (sprawled flat to the deck) where the numbers are, and adjacent to the aft hatch. It is not possible to turn around elsewhere in the crawl space.
20: Main Personnel Airlock (was Forward Cargo Bay). Dorsal and ventral entry point. A ladder extends from the nose landing gear doors to facilitate entry from below. Airlock cycling/air purification equipment is adjacent.
#12- Drive room (Someone could hide in there...)
How about adding a shared Head in room #8?
Good idea. Also should have some dedicated food storage and prep space.
I'm also considering moving the ship's locker to the space across from the forward airlock, and making the computer be "somewhere else" (unspecified, but probably under the main corridor behind wherever the nose gear is).
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