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Food aboard ship

An interesting quote from MGT core

MGT CRB p.138 said:
Life Support and Supplies: Each stateroom on a ship costs Cr. 2,000 per month, occupied or not. This cost covers supplies for the life support system as well as food and water, although meals at this level will be rather spartan. Each low passage berth costs Cr. 100 per month.
Well, that's cutting life support costs in half from the Cr2000 per jump rule, which is not a bad thing (Especially if the cost of a starship passage goes down with it ;)). But 'occupied or not'? What happens to the food and air and water that doesn't get consumed? Does it spoil? Evaporate? Get tossed out the airlock? And does 'occupied' include the possibility of double occupancy? And what about food for high passengers? Are they content to eat 'rather spartan' meals? I've often thought that any high passenger who elects to travel by free trader might well have to take what's offered, but I remember old discussions where people insisted that unless the free trader offered high passage level accomodations and food, "they" just wouldn't assign any high passengers to them.

Be that as it may, high passengers travelling by regular liner will want to get quality food. Is that going to be reflected in the cost of the ticket?

BTW, does Cr2,000 per month translate as Cr600 per trip, starport to starport? After all, such a trip takes 8-9 days from the time the passenger embarks till he disembarks.

It seems to me that for any game that involves keep-track-of-income-and-outgo resource management, any single cost for life support is going to be inapplicable to every situation. The cost of 30 days non-stop in space IS going to be significantly different from the cost of 9 days in space-jumpspace-space. And when we're talking about thousands of credits, the difference is going to be big enough for PCs to care about. So what happens when they stumble across a really good deal on a container-full of military MREs and buy them all for a pittance? How do you figure out how much they save on life support costs while the supply lasts?



Hans
 
Another point to add is the use of un used Low Berths, Since they are a bit larger than a standard fridge in use today and it places the "Item" in stasis effectivly eleminating decay. Imtu we figure you can stuff a little less than 2m3 of fresh food stuffs in it and remove items when needed. Thus giving your High passengers and crew real food in addition to prepackaged food.
 
Another point to add is the use of un used Low Berths, Since they are a bit larger than a standard fridge in use today and it places the "Item" in stasis effectivly eleminating decay. Imtu we figure you can stuff a little less than 2m3 of fresh food stuffs in it and remove items when needed. Thus giving your High passengers and crew real food in addition to prepackaged food.

Low berth a cow or a half dozen pigs / sheep and have really fresh meat...
 
Another point to add is the use of un used Low Berths, Since they are a bit larger than a standard fridge in use today and it places the "Item" in stasis effectivly eleminating decay. Imtu we figure you can stuff a little less than 2m3 of fresh food stuffs in it and remove items when needed. Thus giving your High passengers and crew real food in addition to prepackaged food.

I guess it depends how you see low berths working in your game. Me, in MTU, that's a pretty pricey fridge to operate at Cr100 every time someone opens the door* to grab the next meal. The galley is perfectly capable of keeping food fresh and handy for the whole complement for the week or two of most trips. I prefer to keep my unused lowberths available for emergencies when I can't fill them with paying passengers.

* thus ending the current cycle and requiring a recharge of the system, not to mention having to roll survival of your fresh food each time ;) "Sorry guys, the lettuce didn't make it. Who had lettuce in the low berth lottery?" ;)
 
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Low berth a cow or a half dozen pigs / sheep and have really fresh meat...

That is a great suggestion. In the age od sail they would sometimes have livestock on board. I understand they often keep Golapagos tortises as the lived for a long time on little food and water.

Nothing keeps food fresher than keepng it alive.
 
Future Traveller "You mean you eat living creatures?! Gross! How inhumane! I didn't sign up for that when I booked passage. You'd better have some proper TofuAgar and a competent Shugilii aboard!"
 
Future Traveller "You mean you eat living creatures?! Gross! How inhumane! I didn't sign up for that when I booked passage. You'd better have some proper TofuAgar and a competent Shugilii aboard!"
"You took passage on a tramp merchant[*]. What sort of service did you expect? Eat your food or go hungry."

[*] Had to. If there'd been a choice, he'd've taken passage on a regular liner; after all, the cost is the same.​


Hans
 
Low passenger wakes up...
"Oh. Hey. We're at Glisten?"

Steward: "Naw, not yet. We just had ten pounds of Salisbury steaks in here with you and we had to thaw you out to get it."
 
Low passenger wakes up...
"Oh. Hey. We're at Glisten?"

Steward: "Naw, not yet. We just had ten pounds of Salisbury steaks in here with you and we had to thaw you out to get it."

I truly did LoL when I read this!

Even better to have had to thaw the both passenger and "Bessie", the meat on the hoof, to get thier steaks for the next week!
 
That is a great suggestion. In the age od sail they would sometimes have livestock on board. I understand they often keep Golapagos tortises as the lived for a long time on little food and water.

Nothing keeps food fresher than keepng it alive.

This is likely the way animals for "high-end" fresh food, or live animals kept as pets/companions/service animals would be transported.

"My Kobe beef is brought via cold sleep FROM Kobe!" (said with a snooty inflection and upturned nose).

I can equally see Grand Dame Marcheala from Arglebargle X bringing along her favorite lap-beast Puff Puff and have it fail the revival roll! That ship better have a few connections!

(with apologies to the owner of Arglebargle X)
 
Low passenger wakes up...
"Oh. Hey. We're at Glisten?"

Steward: "Naw, not yet. We just had ten pounds of Salisbury steaks in here with you and we had to thaw you out to get it."

Now I thought the punch line was going to be something like: "Naw, not yet," <cocks hammer> "We just ran out of food..."
 
I am somewhat concerned that you're concerned and apparently familiar with the "gamey taste" of "long pig". :eek:

All mammals work pretty much the same... bleeding them out reduces the "gamey taste" somewhat. Since it's documented to work for monkey and chimp, it should work for people, too...
 
You wouldn't have has to wake them up for that :)

Best regards,

Ewan

If you don't want to eat the assorted chemicals and drugs used in the "freezing" process you have to thaw them long enough to flush their systems.

Considering the issue of tissue saturation, this would take at least 6 hours.
 
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