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IYTU: Describe your Terra?

INYU: What is Terra like?

  • A Planetopolis City (submerged and grav cities too)

    Votes: 16 30.8%
  • A Park. Sophonts moved off world.

    Votes: 5 9.6%
  • A lifeless, war scorched world.

    Votes: 4 7.7%
  • Post-apocalyptic (Mad Max, T2k, Terminator...)

    Votes: 4 7.7%
  • Vaporized. (Made room for intergalactic freeway)

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • A dump. A dumping ground for sector waste.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tech 10 or less. A little beyond present or below.

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • Sol is Neutral government and one of the above?

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 25 48.1%

  • Total voters
    52
  • Poll closed .
I am currently working on a galactic arm from scratch. Probably put it on the opposte side of the Milky Way than where Sol is located. I'll have to lookup how far Lyra is from current Earth, 21st century AD, maybe move that second arm around opposite as well and rename it.

I really haven't seen any Traveller maps, so I don't know if the entire Milky Way is part of the game or not.
 
I am currently working on a galactic arm from scratch. Probably put it on the opposte side of the Milky Way than where Sol is located. I'll have to lookup how far Lyra is from current Earth, 21st century AD, maybe move that second arm around opposite as well and rename it.

I really haven't seen any Traveller maps, so I don't know if the entire Milky Way is part of the game or not.
Check out travellermap.com to see the position of the OTU within the Milky Way. :)

As to the distance to 'Lyra' - if you mean the constellation, that varies tremendously and can include deep sky objects (such as other galaxies!) - but just stars will probably include from a couple dozen ly to several thousands - i.e. still in the same arm.
 
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Several of the UWP actually don't really accurately describe Terra of the 57th century for me.

Hydrographics: Yeah, even at present it's closer to 80%, so I just upped it to 80%.

Population: It's actually a little lower than today. I figure that in the 57th century, they realize that the declining birth rates we see today in the 21st century in industrial countries, is pretty normal: if you have a peaceful, affluent society people just don't feel any pressing need to have kids. In fact, if people from off-world were not moving back to Earth, the population would be in constant decline. Most of the population makes its home in the traditional large cities of Terra. A lot of the world has very low population density, mostly daytrippers flying out there in grav vehicles for a picnic or sightseeing.

Law Level: On most of Terra, you can actually own rifles and shotguns for hobby shooting or hunting. You can go to indoor courses to pay to shoot fusion rifles or VRF gauss weapons (of course, you can't own them). You just have to register them with law enforcement which requires a safety certification. It's also a full fledged surveillance society. It's not necessarily oppressive, most Terrans are used to it and don't really notice it; you go to a cocktail party and it's pretty normal for everyone to talk about 'how scary' it is, but frankly it's been going on for at least a thousand years, so it's just life as normal at this point. But you're not going to be walking around with your rifle without tripping a few expert system-controlled law enforcement sensors. Since most people just walking around with their rifles for legitimate reasons (say, taking them to the sport range or to go hunting), the Expert Systems just make a note of it and move on. On the other hand, they'll make a note if you even take out knives to the backyard BBQ too. They'll just not really do much about it. If you start brandishing the knives, they'll vector in some Copseyes (little anti-grav patrol bots with a stunner) to keep an eye on you from a distance, since even a lot of brandishing is in the spirit of joking around and even the "victim" isn't really threatened by it. If it becomes threatening, they'll zap you and the human cops show up legal proceedings start.

Government Type: The 21st century nations are gone, like long, long gone. United States, China, Germany, or whatever? It's almost ancient history as Uruk or Ur. To the average Terran of that period, they speak of "yeah, those were bad days for Russia, seriously Temujin then Hitler just 700 years later?" As for 57th century Terra: Technically Terra is occupied by the Imperium. In theory, the world is a representative democracy. In practice, it's actually run by large Expert Systems who deal with the individual needs of Terra's citizens, much like before the Imperium invaded. The Imperials technically control the Expert Systems, but in reality the MoJ and INI aren't really sure how much control they have over them. They suspect that if the Terrans wanted the Imperials off their world, they could do it pretty much instantly and bloodlessly. However, the Terrans know, just like the Imperials, that even if that occurred, Imperial retribution would be swift and devastating and the Solomani aren't in any position to relieve Terra fast enough. So they "let" the Imperials occupy Terra. Terrans actually have mixed feelings about the Imperial occupation. Terra IMTU is the oldest of the Old Earth worlds, after all. They weren't big fans of Solomani supremacist dogma. It was all terribly loud and tasteless and frankly, believing it makes you sound stupid. However, it does bug them a lot that Vilani invaders (the TI is identified as "effectively" a Vilani empire since the Solomani Rim War) and their Terran Quislings are occupying their world so they wish the Imperium would go away. The really violent anti-Imperial types have moved off-world (or were "encouraged" to). Due to the pervasive surveillance society, "anti-Imperial terrorism" is limited to things like hacking the MoJ's computers to put arrest warrants out on Duke Adair, making the Emperor a terrorist in Naval computers, impregnating the hull of occupation fleet to so that the flagship of the fleet had "FREE EARTH" in huge letters on the evening before an Imperial parade, and of course peaceful protests especially on the anniversary of Occupation Day. The Imperium actually experience less "vulgar" terrorism on Terra than in other nearby systems however so they generally keep a low profile on the world and lets the local government run the world using Expert Systems in return.

Tech Level: Yeah, it's really high. Terra has lots of super-high tech devices, but they don't actually use it as ostentatiously as you might think. They have their flying anti-gravity resorts and so on, but no flying cities. People live on Terra because they like the traditional feel of the world. But there's plenty of super-high tech going on in labs and corporate parks, mostly concentrated in the solar system as off-world industries and research labs and so on and it's available for sale for people who want it, but a lot of people like to live with lower tech stuff. Terra's major industry is education, so there's a lot of high-tech being researched at universities.
 
Check out travellermap.com to see the position of the OTU within the Milky Way. :)

As to the distance to 'Lyra' - if you mean the constellation, that varies tremendously and can include deep sky objects (such as other galaxies!) - but just stars will probably include from a couple dozen ly to several thousands - i.e. still in the same arm.

Yeah, Lyra didn't gel in my mind too well until I looked it up again. One of my hobbies used to be amateur astronomy and I should have remembered better.

I renamed it on my web site, and moved both Arms I intend on mapping to the other side of the galaxy. I don't know of any maps of the opposite side of the galaxy. There may be some, but I last looked that up around 20 years ago.

I have Profantasy's Fractal Terrains 3 and I just uploaded 9 unlabelled planets to my site. I had to rotate them to display vertically so they would display well. Free to use.
 
Even though I had an Earth centered setting for a while, only one PC ever went there. This took me by surprise, so I had to improvise. I described an amalgam of any future Earth I could remember. One of my favorite books was "Urban Structures for the Future", by Justus Dahinden, which had works by architects like Buckminster Fuller, Paolo Soleri, the Archigram Group, etc. So, the high rent areas looked like the 1964 World's Fair, or Tomorrowland: monorails, tubes, glittering high-rises, arcologies, etc. The low-rent, like Blade Runner: dirty, squalid, dark. Come to think of it, "Metropolis" is close, too. I assumed world population had topped out at 10 billion or so, no reason except my own preconceptions. I wanted it both ways, the "world of tomorrow", but still with elbow room. So maybe I should have voted 7, instead of "other".
 
Planetopolis

Planetopolis is not necessarily ugly. Earth would still need the Amazon rain forest and Sahara and mountains but it is a managed ecosystems. City Sprawl would range from New York to Atlanta to Chicago. For example. Air cities. Ocean cities. Orbital platforms.... A recent must choose between Corisant or San Francisco in Blade Runner. Planetopolis would have many options...
Travellers might have several Planetopolis societies. IMO
 
IMTU, Terra is a garden reservation, A867654-G Ag NI. Hunting rifles etc are permitted in the wilds (though they are often eschewed in favour of bows) but in and around the starport (and the Imperial Summer Palace) LL9 is enforced. Residents generally live a simplistic lifestyle as a matter of choice, but the simplicity is enabled via high technology - a Hydrogen economy with local fusion generator stations, satellite communications, fuel cell grav vehicles removing the need for transport infrastructure, etc. And of course, with the benefit of substantial imports. Exclusive tourism and cottage industry ‘nostalgia exports’ sustain the small economy.

The hub of the Empire is nearby Chiron, Alpha Centauri 3, A877CA9-G In. This industrial powerhouse and planetopolis is the seat of government for the realm, where the Emperor holds personal sway with the complete confidence and pride of his citizens.

All the ‘Homeworlds’ of my Imperium enjoy the fruits of cutting edge TL16 technology, long before it filters out to the rest of the realm - the ‘spin’ being that they selflessly act as a proving ground for new technology.
 
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IMTU, Terra is a garden reservation, A867654-G Ag NI. ...
The hub of the Empire is nearby Chiron, Alpha Centauri 3, A877CA9-G In. This industrial powerhouse and planetopolis ...

So it is very similar to number 2 which is what I choose and why I did the survey. I also have a TL16 culture but not near Terra (Sol).
 
USA no longer the economic powerhouse it once was, China is now the super power, and has continued it's millienium old programs of gradual annexation of it's neighbors, but nothing mojor has happened.
Then the deep space propulsion lab invents the jump drive and the first mission to Bernard's Star returns. The chinese say that we are now living in interesting times. Societies are galvanized into action, vast new projects are funded and the planet turns it's gaze from an abyss of a slow and inexorable annexation by China, to the challenge and gain to be had out there among the stars.

Hi,

bearing in mind we are currently funding the Indian Space programme and they share a border (Tibet) with China, you could have an interesting world war as a reult of conflict between these superpowers...

Regards

David
 
Lost in Space!

My Terra is pretty much long since gone from memory except for historians.

However, I, the Ref and G.O.D. know that Terra is resurgent on the interstellar stage. I would place its UWP at A 877 988-G.

Thing is the area of the galaxy I am playing with is some 8-10 Kyrs from the present and off the Orion Arm in space, so even if the players knew where Terra was it would take them lifetimes to get there by Jump, a really, really long time by drives greater than the Jump Drive.
 
Hi,

bearing in mind we are currently funding the Indian Space programme and they share a border (Tibet) with China, you could have an interesting world war as a reult of conflict between these superpowers...

Regards

David

Ahh but then I'm a constructionist, not a deconstructionist, this is why IMTU when I play in the later eras, Dulinor stayed a happy little Arch Duke and the Cymberline chips stayed on Cymberline, no rebellion, no virus, no thank you.
In that timeline Terra is self governing under the imperium no more military occupation and remains a hi pop industrial world at TL = F. Perhaps pop code A with a digit of 1. Long since de-balkinized before the rule of man, with gravetics and cheap fusion power there remained no barriers to population mobility except for one: poverty. People in slum cities and barrios and ghettos and inner cities, with little education and no means to obtain better, become 2nd class citizens, unable to compete in the market for knowledge workers, they are the service workers, the fry cooks and day laborors in a world that has little need for such. There is no more nationalism, but there is social class and it remains very difficult to raise one's class. The Imperial miitary recruits many of their crews and troops from the poor of Terra, providing one of the few ways out of poverty for them and their decendants.
 
I have found several drawings, based on observations, of the arms of the milky way galaxy. So, I think I'll make some sketches and start in on sector maps after that. Lack of lots of spare time though, I may have to stretch that out over several months.
 
None of, and a little, of the above. It pretty much looks like what it should be in the future after roughly half the population left it for the elbow room of the colonies nearly 500 years previously. Mainly, the coastal urban areas are sprawling megalopolises like the oft-mentioned in many works San Franangeles-Diego Metroplex, which lise linked by high speed maglev lines to the Miami-Bama-NY Metroplex sprawl. In the middle most of the population is small clusters supporting a lot of agro businesses.

Some of central Europe was nuked, gassed, and sneezed over with weaponized pox and anthrax back in 1989 when the last war between the Cold War powers went hot for about a week. But the Ruhr is recovering nicely even if Poland and Czechoslovakia are still pretty much like something out of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.. China moved an enormous part of its population out to its own new colonies during a Great March Outward when the Jump-1/2 drives came out and the density hasn't ever returned.

There was a brief movement to try to set up a second Communist government with what was left on Earth in China but The Soviets used the chance to take control of pretty much all of the northern regions and the southern half was absorbed by the Pan Pacific - NATO Alliance with Japan, United Korea, and the Chinese elected officials acting as triumvirate over a spectacularly successful economic zone. Think Hong Kong/Shanghai on a scale the size of Taiwan now, with a space port. The primary sea farms in the world are run there, and it is the home port of the huge cruising fleets that herd and breed whales for meet so the wild ones recover from prior over-harvesting.

Australia is used as a training facility for the (previously "Terran Confederation") Imperial Marines, Army, and Scouts. The Moon has similar facilities for the Imperial Navy and acts as the largest, oldest depot in Imperial Space.

The total population of Earth has been stable now at around 3 billion. Asteroid mining helps support the depot's yards on the Moon with mass drivers slingshotting the ores to the mills there.

The Imperial Court is on Earth but it is still "traveling" since the first Emperor of the Terran Empire is native to Blauvelt one subsector away and tends to prefer his ranch estates in the foothills near Lake Empress there more than time on Earth. A court, parliament, and palace are being built as we speak (the Empire being only 26 years old right now) in Berlin, though, so eventually that will be the seat of power. The Emperor wants it to be there so the courtiers can see firsthand when they look out their windows what happens when government ideologies go to war in the hope that it will give some of the more hawkish new nobles (there is currently a return to aristocracy previously discouraged under the egalitarian trends of the Terran Confederation) pause. The Emperor served in the last war in the Terran Confederation Marines during the last stand at Jagranath so he knows of what he speaks on the matter. He does not want another war.

Earth is treated as a special place, almost sacred to some colonists. The new Imperial Crest of the realm is a rising phoenix with the three stars of the Blauvelt Cluster (Freidland, Blauvelt, Neuland) that rallied and saved Earth when the war seemed lost, and the single blue star of Earth above. The peoples of the Cluster have a love/hate thing with Earth, but they also get a little weepy when they go there for the first time.
 
Back in the day, my Terra was very much inspired by Blade Runner. It was dirty and populated with people who lacked the means to get out of there.

These days, if I ran a campaign that included Terra, I'd probably make it heavily populated but still park-like, with arcologies, etc.
 
These are all interesting views of future Terra. I'm a bit surprised no one has chosen a dumping ground (aka Disney scifi style).
 
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