Serenity - The Movie
- Thread starter Jeff M. Hopper
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The movie rocks! Even my wife (ardent SF hater) loved it - although there were bits she needed to leave the theatre for, but that's owing to being 8 months pregnant and having a baby doing loop-de-loops in time to the fight scenes is uncomfortable.
I haven't seen the TV series, but will definitely getting my hands on those DVDs.
The best ...
* The quips.
* The fight scenes.
* The chase scenes.
* The badguys.
* The (kinda) good guys.
* The way the girls have nice outfits as well as daggy work wear (my wife made me say that one).
* The mix of old and new, shiny and dirty, riches and squalor.
The worst ...
* Some of the stuff that would be obvious from the TV series (e.g. Reavers) is really unexplained, even for a SF movie. But it is tied up nicely towards the end.
* The explanation that this is all in one solar system - that makes some things easier to stomach (ALL of the reavers following Serenity), and others harder (the Alliance not nuking the reavers' spaceyard).
* The occasional mandarin word - it was a little hard to follow what was said due to accents and mumbled voices, throwing in incomprehensible Mandarin just made that harder. I had to repeat a bunch of Mal's lines for my wife as my yankee-speak ear is better than hers.
Overall, very watchable and well worth seeing again to see bits I might have missed this time. The choice of badguy was very cool, the overall mix of high-tech and frontier worlds was refreshing too. The way the characters were all mixed up real people was sheer brilliance!!!
So, who else is going to start a Firefly/Serenity game with their local players?
I haven't seen the TV series, but will definitely getting my hands on those DVDs.
The best ...
* The quips.
* The fight scenes.
* The chase scenes.
* The badguys.
* The (kinda) good guys.
* The way the girls have nice outfits as well as daggy work wear (my wife made me say that one).
* The mix of old and new, shiny and dirty, riches and squalor.
The worst ...
* Some of the stuff that would be obvious from the TV series (e.g. Reavers) is really unexplained, even for a SF movie. But it is tied up nicely towards the end.
* The explanation that this is all in one solar system - that makes some things easier to stomach (ALL of the reavers following Serenity), and others harder (the Alliance not nuking the reavers' spaceyard).
* The occasional mandarin word - it was a little hard to follow what was said due to accents and mumbled voices, throwing in incomprehensible Mandarin just made that harder. I had to repeat a bunch of Mal's lines for my wife as my yankee-speak ear is better than hers.
Overall, very watchable and well worth seeing again to see bits I might have missed this time. The choice of badguy was very cool, the overall mix of high-tech and frontier worlds was refreshing too. The way the characters were all mixed up real people was sheer brilliance!!!
So, who else is going to start a Firefly/Serenity game with their local players?
Fritz_Brown
Super Moderator
Kafka, where are you looking for the RPG? Amazon has it for ~ $25 (US). Unless you want the signed copy, which the website lists as $99!
mike wightman
SOC-14 10K
Is that the one "Printed on thicker, high-quality paper, bound in black leatherette with gold-foil stamping, with gold ribbon bookmark."?
I hope they've got some left...
But Amazon is the place to go:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931567506/qid=1128362606/sr=2-1/002-1180868-2667211?v=glance&s=books
I hope they've got some left...
But Amazon is the place to go:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931567506/qid=1128362606/sr=2-1/002-1180868-2667211?v=glance&s=books
mike wightman
SOC-14 10K
I've just read that Serenity took $10.1 million in its opening weekend.
How much will it have to make to guarantee a sequel? Does anyone know how much it cost to make?
How much will it have to make to guarantee a sequel? Does anyone know how much it cost to make?
far-trader
SOC-14 10K
Estimated buget of $40 million according to IMDB:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0379786/business
Not sure where to find actual off hand.
How much it has to exceed that (if any) in release to consider a sequel is anybody's guess. Most of the money is made in dvds now isn't it?
http://imdb.com/title/tt0379786/business
Not sure where to find actual off hand.
How much it has to exceed that (if any) in release to consider a sequel is anybody's guess. Most of the money is made in dvds now isn't it?
What I've gleaned from various fan sites out there is that $80M in the first 2 weeks will open the possibilty up for discussion and $80M in the first week will ensure a second film. Unfortunately, they were anticipating $16M opening weekend, but boxoffice this weekend sucked industry wide, so not sure if that is a refleciton on the film itself (I personally don't think so).
If life were akin to a free market...Fritz88:
xe.com Universal Currency Converter ® Results
Live mid-market rates as of 2005.10.03 22:57:28 UTC.
25.00 USD
United States Dollars = 29.1672 CAD
Canada Dollars
1 USD = 1.16669 CAD 1 CAD = 0.857128 USD
Now, because the Canadian Dollar has been much lower until late...manufacturers, including gaming manufacturers must built currency instability into the cost of the game. So that is already $40.00. Add to that their is a tariff on games of not less than 8% but include a surcharge of $9.00 for processing the tariff.
Now sometimes, FLGS have to pay postage or shipping costs. So add postage onto the final price.
And there you have it. Why Canadians are disadvantaged when it comes to buying RPGs. So even if we do find the right price in the States...we are screwed over several times.
<rant mode off>
xe.com Universal Currency Converter ® Results
Live mid-market rates as of 2005.10.03 22:57:28 UTC.
25.00 USD
United States Dollars = 29.1672 CAD
Canada Dollars
1 USD = 1.16669 CAD 1 CAD = 0.857128 USD
Now, because the Canadian Dollar has been much lower until late...manufacturers, including gaming manufacturers must built currency instability into the cost of the game. So that is already $40.00. Add to that their is a tariff on games of not less than 8% but include a surcharge of $9.00 for processing the tariff.
Now sometimes, FLGS have to pay postage or shipping costs. So add postage onto the final price.
And there you have it. Why Canadians are disadvantaged when it comes to buying RPGs. So even if we do find the right price in the States...we are screwed over several times.
<rant mode off>
Shadowdancer
SOC-14 1K
It really depends on how well it does in all of the foreign markets and on DVD. There have been several cult-type movies that did poorly in their initial U.S. release that did well enough overseas and on video-DVD to warrant a sequel, and the sequels did better at the box office. The Austin Powers movies, for example.
Also, studios are happy if a sequel does 75 percent of the previous film's box office.
My understanding, supposedly from somebody who heard a Universal exec say it and then posted it to fireflyfans.net was that a worldwide total box office taking of $80 million would lead to sequel(s).
In practice that means about $50 million needed in the US. A $10 million opening is on the low side for that but it's not impossible if people keep turning out to see it.
In practice that means about $50 million needed in the US. A $10 million opening is on the low side for that but it's not impossible if people keep turning out to see it.
For anybody wondering what all the fuss is about the first 9 minutes can be seen on the internet at:
http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/web/index.html
Obviously this will contain spoilers since it is part of the film
http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/web/index.html
Obviously this will contain spoilers since it is part of the film
mike wightman
SOC-14 10K
That bit alone adds so much to the Firefly story.
I still have to wait to see the film though
I still have to wait to see the film though
Just to further clarify - it's not $80 million in the first two weeks as the threshold for a sequel. It's $80 million gross worldwide, including DVD sales. That was the word from Joss back in August, about the time of the world premire. I have no idea where the "two weeks" thing came from.
Go see it, and go see it again, both to catch what you missed and to help assure a sequel.
- John
"You're not going to make me angry."
"Please, just spend an hour with him..."
Go see it, and go see it again, both to catch what you missed and to help assure a sequel.
- John
"You're not going to make me angry."
"Please, just spend an hour with him..."
mike wightman
SOC-14 10K
I will be going at least three times, and I'll buy the UK and US DVD release versions, and any limited edition versions that come out.
A one with a model Firefly would be nice...
A one with a model Firefly would be nice...
Well, I've done my bit. Seen it twice allready and plan to buy it on DVD whenever that happens.
I really liked it.
No, I REALLY liked it!
I saw the last session opening night and would have turned around and paid for another ticket to watch it again then and there but for it being the last session. Waited three more days for friends to organise themselves before I saw it again, though I must say the first viewing was better, but that's to be expected.
I really liked it.
No, I REALLY liked it!
I saw the last session opening night and would have turned around and paid for another ticket to watch it again then and there but for it being the last session. Waited three more days for friends to organise themselves before I saw it again, though I must say the first viewing was better, but that's to be expected.
Apparently it was something said by a poorly informed Universal publicity person at one of the blog promotional pre-showings. It was probably a combination of two different things. $80 target for a sequel combined with first and second weekend gross to determine how long it will stay in theaters (which will obviously effect over all gross). My bad for passing it along without vetting it properly.Originally posted by jappel:
Just to further clarify - it's not $80 million in the first two weeks as the threshold for a sequel. It's $80 million gross worldwide, including DVD sales. That was the word from Joss back in August, about the time of the world premire. I have no idea where the "two weeks" thing came from.
Go see it, and go see it again, both to catch what you missed and to help assure a sequel.
- John
"You're not going to make me angry."
"Please, just spend an hour with him..."
And yes, I intend to go see it again this weekend (with as many of the uninitiated that I can drag along)!
