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some very simple CT tools

Originally posted by sid6.7:
wow...very cool evaluation FT...wow..your my hero

okay i picked the simplest first
computer tonage...

maybe my book 2 is messed up?...

model/mass

1,1
1b,1
2,2
2b,2
3,3
4,4
5-7,5

is this wrong?
Sounds like you have a 1st edition Book 2. 2nd edition Book 2 changed the tons of Model/6 and Model/7 (the rest is the same iirc):

Model/6 - 7tons MCr55 cap 15/35 TL-C
Model/7 - 9tons MCr80 cap 20/50 TL-D
 
Originally posted by sid6.7:
wow...very cool evaluation FT...wow..your my hero

okay i picked the simplest first
computer tonage...

maybe my book 2 is messed up?...

model/mass

1,1
1b,1
2,2
2b,2
3,3
4,4
5-7,5

is this wrong?
Sounds like you have a 1st edition Book 2. 2nd edition Book 2 changed the tons of Model/6 and Model/7 (the rest is the same iirc):

Model/6 - 7tons MCr55 cap 15/35 TL-C
Model/7 - 9tons MCr80 cap 20/50 TL-D
 
Originally posted by sid6.7:
could i have the general stats for those 3 ships
i'll add them in after i fix the over tonage thing..


isn't a frigate generally smaller then a crusier?
thats why i made it a tad bigger then a merchant
but smaller then a crusier...i can make it bigger
if its the other way around...
It's CT
Some would say calling the 400ton and 800ton ships Cruisers is a stretch ;) To take historical size relations if you accept the 400ton and 800ton as Cruisers then the next size down would be a Destroyer and then a Frigate. I don't think even I could call a 100ton or 200ton ship a Frigate, even in a CT small ship universe. I'd suggest the "Cruisers" are actually Corvettes or maybe Frigates at about 1000tons. Then I'd put Destroyers in the 2000-3000tons range and Cruisers (real Cruisers in the small ship verse) in the 4000-5000tons range. But that's just me, maybe


I'll PM you copies of the ships with drive size notes, maybe they changed between 1st and 2nd edition too. Only I'm not sure which 3 you mean so you get all 15 I checked
(in a bit... )
 
Originally posted by sid6.7:
could i have the general stats for those 3 ships
i'll add them in after i fix the over tonage thing..


isn't a frigate generally smaller then a crusier?
thats why i made it a tad bigger then a merchant
but smaller then a crusier...i can make it bigger
if its the other way around...
It's CT
Some would say calling the 400ton and 800ton ships Cruisers is a stretch ;) To take historical size relations if you accept the 400ton and 800ton as Cruisers then the next size down would be a Destroyer and then a Frigate. I don't think even I could call a 100ton or 200ton ship a Frigate, even in a CT small ship universe. I'd suggest the "Cruisers" are actually Corvettes or maybe Frigates at about 1000tons. Then I'd put Destroyers in the 2000-3000tons range and Cruisers (real Cruisers in the small ship verse) in the 4000-5000tons range. But that's just me, maybe


I'll PM you copies of the ships with drive size notes, maybe they changed between 1st and 2nd edition too. Only I'm not sure which 3 you mean so you get all 15 I checked
(in a bit... )
 
okay i fixed the computer mass then to reflect that...

after making your ship now it asks you if you want
another if you say "Y" yes then it takes you back
to the menu/naming....anything else takes you out and closes the program. it will now append
all ships to the same file then you can print
that off...each with thier own name of course...

you'll want to delete the file after printing
OR RENAME IT as it will get HUGE with ships
if you dont...

i fixed the command letters to reflect the
ship class/type...
 
okay i fixed the computer mass then to reflect that...

after making your ship now it asks you if you want
another if you say "Y" yes then it takes you back
to the menu/naming....anything else takes you out and closes the program. it will now append
all ships to the same file then you can print
that off...each with thier own name of course...

you'll want to delete the file after printing
OR RENAME IT as it will get HUGE with ships
if you dont...

i fixed the command letters to reflect the
ship class/type...
 
drive wieghts: here is what i have for weights

IF driv$ = "A" THEN LET drv = 15
IF driv$ = "B" THEN LET drv = 25
IF driv$ = "C" THEN LET drv = 35
IF driv$ = "D" THEN LET drv = 45
IF driv$ = "E" THEN LET drv = 55
IF driv$ = "F" THEN LET drv = 65
IF driv$ = "G" THEN LET drv = 75
IF driv$ = "H" THEN LET drv = 85
IF driv$ = "J" THEN LET drv = 95
IF driv$ = "K" THEN LET drv = 105
IF driv$ = "L" THEN LET drv = 115
IF driv$ = "M" THEN LET drv = 125
IF driv$ = "N" THEN LET drv = 135
IF driv$ = "P" THEN LET drv = 145
IF driv$ = "Q" THEN LET drv = 155
IF driv$ = "R" THEN LET drv = 165
IF driv$ = "S" THEN LET drv = 175

i think this is now correct..

for scouts i had to down grade to life boats
rather the ship boats i think that was my mistake
as it would take tonage to the negative..
 
drive wieghts: here is what i have for weights

IF driv$ = "A" THEN LET drv = 15
IF driv$ = "B" THEN LET drv = 25
IF driv$ = "C" THEN LET drv = 35
IF driv$ = "D" THEN LET drv = 45
IF driv$ = "E" THEN LET drv = 55
IF driv$ = "F" THEN LET drv = 65
IF driv$ = "G" THEN LET drv = 75
IF driv$ = "H" THEN LET drv = 85
IF driv$ = "J" THEN LET drv = 95
IF driv$ = "K" THEN LET drv = 105
IF driv$ = "L" THEN LET drv = 115
IF driv$ = "M" THEN LET drv = 125
IF driv$ = "N" THEN LET drv = 135
IF driv$ = "P" THEN LET drv = 145
IF driv$ = "Q" THEN LET drv = 155
IF driv$ = "R" THEN LET drv = 165
IF driv$ = "S" THEN LET drv = 175

i think this is now correct..

for scouts i had to down grade to life boats
rather the ship boats i think that was my mistake
as it would take tonage to the negative..
 
ship types...

i see my 1000t carrier might not be correct then
i was actually able to squeeze in 18 fighters..
which would be 3 large flight wings

:(

i might have to re-evaluate that....bummer for the moment i'll leave it as it is till i get
the tonage fixedt....bear with me...

but since custom hulls were allowed up 5000t
your probably right...800 wouldnt be a cruiser
 
ship types...

i see my 1000t carrier might not be correct then
i was actually able to squeeze in 18 fighters..
which would be 3 large flight wings

:(

i might have to re-evaluate that....bummer for the moment i'll leave it as it is till i get
the tonage fixedt....bear with me...

but since custom hulls were allowed up 5000t
your probably right...800 wouldnt be a cruiser
 
oopsy i found it...bridge 20t forgot to subtract it...DOH!

no life boat for the scout...poof!
always streamlined i guess?
 
oopsy i found it...bridge 20t forgot to subtract it...DOH!

no life boat for the scout...poof!
always streamlined i guess?
 
Lots of people call the Type T a Corvette or cutter; which would put the frigate midway...

A 500, 600 or 700 T Frigate sounds about right; 675 is just... odd.

Destroyers were, originally, smaller than frigates.
 
Lots of people call the Type T a Corvette or cutter; which would put the frigate midway...

A 500, 600 or 700 T Frigate sounds about right; 675 is just... odd.

Destroyers were, originally, smaller than frigates.
 
version 1.4

okay this may have fixed some of the problems...

1.
it now asks you if you want to make another ship
Y = yes anything else exits the program, it puts
all your ships in the same file for printing.

2.
i put a divider line in the file so you
can read it a bit easier they dont all run together..

3.
it has my new carrier class but that may
change depending on whats canon for ship sizes
as i have the older LBB and the newer changes the definition of somethings..

4.
hopefully i've fixed the tonage error
there were a number of things wrong and
a number of wierd glitches..still may be
some...the qbasic calculator is doing
wierd math??!!

4A.
had to lower staterooms and lowberths
to offset random sizing of drives they
were both fluctuating so that would take me
over my hull size alot...

5. added FT to feedback credits

6.
added a text file explaining my idea of fighters which may change as i see HG has data on fighters

7.
changed the letters to correspond with ship
type-class...


TODO
----
tweak the math for tonage...?
tweak the math for costs...?
add in 3 ship types FT mentioned...
make it so it creates a file for each ship
rather then 1 massive file...

anything else?

download at the link in the first post...
 
version 1.4

okay this may have fixed some of the problems...

1.
it now asks you if you want to make another ship
Y = yes anything else exits the program, it puts
all your ships in the same file for printing.

2.
i put a divider line in the file so you
can read it a bit easier they dont all run together..

3.
it has my new carrier class but that may
change depending on whats canon for ship sizes
as i have the older LBB and the newer changes the definition of somethings..

4.
hopefully i've fixed the tonage error
there were a number of things wrong and
a number of wierd glitches..still may be
some...the qbasic calculator is doing
wierd math??!!

4A.
had to lower staterooms and lowberths
to offset random sizing of drives they
were both fluctuating so that would take me
over my hull size alot...

5. added FT to feedback credits

6.
added a text file explaining my idea of fighters which may change as i see HG has data on fighters

7.
changed the letters to correspond with ship
type-class...


TODO
----
tweak the math for tonage...?
tweak the math for costs...?
add in 3 ship types FT mentioned...
make it so it creates a file for each ship
rather then 1 massive file...

anything else?

download at the link in the first post...
 
could i have the stats on these ships?

The K, L and T would be the Safari Ship (200ton), the Lab Ship (400ton), and the Patrol Cruiser (400ton). No worries then, just a bonus if you're looking for more to add
 
could i have the stats on these ships?

The K, L and T would be the Safari Ship (200ton), the Lab Ship (400ton), and the Patrol Cruiser (400ton). No worries then, just a bonus if you're looking for more to add
 
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