Before T20 was released it was mentioned that you would be doing a PDF version of the rule book. Is this still the case or has the idea been dropped due to piracy?
T20 PDF
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The plan was at one point to make the PDF availiable for $25. No free copy for the buyers of the hardcover. I too would really like the PDF version. I use the vehicle rules, but don't like to lug the huge book around, and want to make notes for the errata. Which I can do on a print out, but don't want to do on my book.
To determine if one purchased a book you could have them provide a) serial number of the book b) purchase proof (receipt, credit card activity) or c) include a 'code' in each book.
Alternatively, you could just make a set of charts available in PDF for free. There you'll have just the charts and none of the text needed to undestand them unless you're either intimately familair with them.
Personally, I think the 'fear' of people 'stealing' free PDFs and not buying the hard-cover is to ridiculously over-rated as to be laughable and divergent of reality. If one were going to purchase the material, they'll purchase the material regardless of access to a copy or not. Almost everyone I know prefers to have a hardbound book to read instead of reading on the computer. Heck, having the D20 mechanics avaialable for a free download has not prevented anyone that I know or know of from purchasing the D&D books.
on a side pet-peeve, note, I think it's funny that I'll talk with someone who blasts Microsoft and thinks the 'open source' is the only way to go, yet will tell me that WoTC owns the XP chart and if anyone reproduces it they're breaking the law.......
Alternatively, you could just make a set of charts available in PDF for free. There you'll have just the charts and none of the text needed to undestand them unless you're either intimately familair with them.
Personally, I think the 'fear' of people 'stealing' free PDFs and not buying the hard-cover is to ridiculously over-rated as to be laughable and divergent of reality. If one were going to purchase the material, they'll purchase the material regardless of access to a copy or not. Almost everyone I know prefers to have a hardbound book to read instead of reading on the computer. Heck, having the D20 mechanics avaialable for a free download has not prevented anyone that I know or know of from purchasing the D&D books.
on a side pet-peeve, note, I think it's funny that I'll talk with someone who blasts Microsoft and thinks the 'open source' is the only way to go, yet will tell me that WoTC owns the XP chart and if anyone reproduces it they're breaking the law.......
MichaelL65
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I've fount that rather strange as well. Especially when they compare MS to WotC.
Actually, there are two royalty-free licenses provided by Wizards. You don't need to print the d20 Trademark License. You just need to comply with the Trademark Usage Guide. Applying that squared "d20 system" logo automatically means you're using the Trademark License (unless you already have a special licensing agreement with Wizards that include expanded use of their trademarks).
What you do need is to print the Open Game License. Comply with that license's term, and you can use whatever is in the System Reference Document or any of the clearly designated Open Game Content.
Speaking of XP table, do you know which section of the SRD has it? Trying to look through my downloaded copy to no avail.
What you do need is to print the Open Game License. Comply with that license's term, and you can use whatever is in the System Reference Document or any of the clearly designated Open Game Content.
Speaking of XP table, do you know which section of the SRD has it? Trying to look through my downloaded copy to no avail.
The exp progression is arithmetic. Therefore all the non math/engineering/computer science majors figuring the total exp needed for the next level is.
((Next Level * Current Level) / 2)*1000
Ex To attain 7th level requires ((7*6)/2)*1000 exp total ((42)/2)*1000 or 21000 exp total or 6000 more than the 6th level requirement which is 15000 ((6*5)/2)*1000.
This is a relatively simple formula to remember, try to come up with the same for the old D&D second edition, good luck.
--Chris
((Next Level * Current Level) / 2)*1000
Ex To attain 7th level requires ((7*6)/2)*1000 exp total ((42)/2)*1000 or 21000 exp total or 6000 more than the 6th level requirement which is 15000 ((6*5)/2)*1000.
This is a relatively simple formula to remember, try to come up with the same for the old D&D second edition, good luck.
--Chris
Still, I couldn't find the formula in the SRD.
I'd avoid second edition AD&D, where each classes have different XP charts to determine class advancement. That's one less thing to worry about in 3e D&D ... that and the THAC0.
For the original System Reference Documents:
http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=srd
QUERY: Is it me or is the majority of the T20 owners are not D&D gamers? Are they buying T20 due to lack of a new Traveller game as promised by Far Future?
I'd avoid second edition AD&D, where each classes have different XP charts to determine class advancement. That's one less thing to worry about in 3e D&D ... that and the THAC0.
For the original System Reference Documents:
http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=srd
QUERY: Is it me or is the majority of the T20 owners are not D&D gamers? Are they buying T20 due to lack of a new Traveller game as promised by Far Future?
I've never played D&D with the D20 rules, but I do own it. I picked up T20 because while I've always liked the background, I've never really liked any of the previous rules sets and T20 looked promising. It's been a while since I looked at anything dealing with Traveller, so I didn't know that T5 had even been discussed when I picked up T20.
I found the answer to the lack of experience in the SRD. See the faq for what is missing from the SRD.
http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417h
and check out the usage guide for what you are not allowed to do with a D20 logo system.
http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/d20guide.rtf
By definition of the usage guide you can not add how to create a character or how to apply experience to gain levels in a D20 logo product.
What got me is the Usage Guide also states you can't include minatures in your d20 product. Which really gets my goat if I am reading this correctly d20 games can't have minatures associated with them, I like to use minatures. I guess it could be gotten around, by naming your minature line not associated with your game.
--Chris
http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=dt20010417h
and check out the usage guide for what you are not allowed to do with a D20 logo system.
http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/d20guide.rtf
By definition of the usage guide you can not add how to create a character or how to apply experience to gain levels in a D20 logo product.
What got me is the Usage Guide also states you can't include minatures in your d20 product. Which really gets my goat if I am reading this correctly d20 games can't have minatures associated with them, I like to use minatures. I guess it could be gotten around, by naming your minature line not associated with your game.
--Chris
The mini's thing started out in the OGL document because as 3e was coming out WOTC also had "Chainmail" and it's associated mini's coming out and they didn't want any competition. Well that version of Chainmail stank (imo and all that) and was whacked in August 2002.
<http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=minis/ch20020627x> However the restriction still stands tying the hands of any D20 producer.
William
I don't think the formula is mentioned anywhere in any D20 / T20 products. This is a standard progression and would be very difficult to copyright. IE try to copyright 2+2=4 so when anyone adds 2+2 they must pay me a royalty.</font>[/QUOTE]I almost forgot. You are correct. You cannot copyright mathematic equation.
NO, it means you cannot market miniatures product line using the d20 logo. So use your own trademark or brand, if you have a pen-and-paper product and slap that on the miniatures package.
For example, let's say I published Vortex d20 RPG with a d20 logo and I want that game to be supported by my miniatures product line. I can use my Vortex brand/trademark but will not slap a d20 logo on the package of ship & character minis.
I mean do you really need a d20 logo on minis? If you want to add game stat with the minis, use just the OGL.
P.S. This year my resolution is not to respond an obvious question or a problem with a "duh!" and a
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