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Roger Calver
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I think that there would be other willing to see what could happen, anyones if there serious can put me in that as well.
PM me.
PM me.
Well, that's it then.
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G K Zhukov
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hmm.
Ive been using BRP for settings for years. Maybe 2300ADv3 using BRP
If someone ccan get a definitive answer on the cost of rights then im in contact with a couple of the Chaosium guys....
That would be sweet.
Or maybe even MJD-Avenger/Comstar could make a Translight conversion?
That was always the plan, though it, too, seems to have stalled. SciFi20 also had it's own 'house' setting, a hard SF near-Earth sort of place...
As a matter of record, the ship design and vehicle design sequences for 2320AD are still mine. Hunter never purchased them from me. Just so that is out there. In fact, I don't think Hunter has even seen the current iteration of those two design sequences.
actually... A 2300AD setting book for Translight would be ace.
For those who are interested, i've started a 2300AD facebook group. A lot of the art i drew for QLI is there. Feel free for personal use blah, etc.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=18295716324
For those who are interested, i've started a 2300AD facebook group. A lot of the art i drew for QLI is there. Feel free for personal use blah, etc.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=18295716324
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Another system that might work is ASMP's PDQ.
To be honest, though, I've always felt that the best part of 2300/2320 was the setting. It's more or less rules-agnostic and, I'd even go so far as to say that the setting defines the rules. How trivial would it be to create a book that translates the 2300/2320 setting to a variety of different rule sets?
More importantly, how easy would it be to get the setting rights and call it something different - The Age of Stutterwarp, maybe?
The thing is that this setting has a fairly small, very hard-core set of fans who want to own hardcopy resource books. And we would like some of that material to be canon. I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to make business decisions about the future of the setting.
The beauty of something like Lulu.com is that there is no initial outlay for a large print run. Exactly as many books are printed as there are orders. Nobody makes money, but the fans get what they want. And that's the important part.
I would absolutely be willing to donate my time to this kind of enterprise.
To be honest, though, I've always felt that the best part of 2300/2320 was the setting. It's more or less rules-agnostic and, I'd even go so far as to say that the setting defines the rules. How trivial would it be to create a book that translates the 2300/2320 setting to a variety of different rule sets?
More importantly, how easy would it be to get the setting rights and call it something different - The Age of Stutterwarp, maybe?
The thing is that this setting has a fairly small, very hard-core set of fans who want to own hardcopy resource books. And we would like some of that material to be canon. I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to make business decisions about the future of the setting.
The beauty of something like Lulu.com is that there is no initial outlay for a large print run. Exactly as many books are printed as there are orders. Nobody makes money, but the fans get what they want. And that's the important part.
I would absolutely be willing to donate my time to this kind of enterprise.
Careful what you wish for... Thats exactly how i felt a couple of years ago.
I'll be blunt... Ive always felt GDW's settings: MegaTraveller, 2300AD, traveller:2300, Space:1889, Twilight:2000 we're all fantastic (theyre fond of the colon arent they? <-----not trying to suggest anything here now i know how that sounds!)
..but their rules sucked big time.
CosmicGamer
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I get what your saying. I believe the MGT core Traveller book leaves out the setting details on purpose for just this reason. I believe they are planning to provide supplements that are non Traveller settings - like Babylon 5. It would be so wonderful if besides the Spinward Marches (I have no idea exactly whats in it but assume it will be a CT setting) supplement they produced supplements for the different Traveller eras.
I do like a good book but pdfs are useful too and you can print out what you need.
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I am being very careful to wish for a little certificate that tells me that I am allowed to publish fiction and/or sourcebooks that could be considered canon as long as i (and the setting owner) derived no commercial profit from it. a no-profit license, if you will.
I am SO joining this.
Star Frontiers is now produced in exactly that way and doing quite well i here... i drew a map for them too.
http://www.starfrontiersman.com/
(then someone came along and beat mine into dust! lol)
Vile
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Same here. I would be happy to contribute if such a situation arose (unlikely though it may be).hmm.
Ive been using BRP for settings for years. Maybe 2300ADv3 using BRP
If someone ccan get a definitive answer on the cost of rights then im in contact with a couple of the Chaosium guys....
The trick here is that I was paid, at least the initial amount based on word count. What I didn't get, and likely never will, is the additional amounts in the contract based on sales. If there is no book, there is no sales. I might be able to make a case based on that, but then again, maybe not.
If Hunter manages to make a go of 2320AD, well, good for him. My involvement with it, though, is done. I like Hunter, but this project has gone through too many false starts, and let too many people down. The fans, the artists, me...
good point. does that mean that if hunter fails to pay colin his pro-rate royalties then hunter is in breach and colin can ask for his work back?
That would be a harsh treatment for both colin and hunter though.. and it might mean that hunter couldnt sell 2320AD any longer but neither could Colin.. oh the vagueries of intellectual property.
Regardless.... Hunter will probably reappear at some point none the wiser.
I hope so.. he's already had a great achievement with bringing us T20.
I just wish he'd let 2320AD go...
Matt Sprange is a nice guy. I like him. He ran RuneQuest for me at the UKGamesExpo.... Just rather 2300AD not go to Mongoose.
That would be a harsh treatment for both colin and hunter though.. and it might mean that hunter couldnt sell 2320AD any longer but neither could Colin.. oh the vagueries of intellectual property.
Regardless.... Hunter will probably reappear at some point none the wiser.
I hope so.. he's already had a great achievement with bringing us T20.
I just wish he'd let 2320AD go...
Matt Sprange is a nice guy. I like him. He ran RuneQuest for me at the UKGamesExpo.... Just rather 2300AD not go to Mongoose.
epicenter00
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As heretical as this sounds, I really add Traveller and MT. But seriously, GDW did a lot of great things, but they often fell flat on their faces. Case in point: When I was younger I used to think the Kafer Sourcebook was a great thing, richly detailed and everything. However, now that I'm older I know better, it's actually long-winded book that explained why it's okay to hate Kafers. It took GDW like dozens of pages to delving into history, psychology, and biology to explain what the much-maligned Dungeons and Dragons system could have explained in a single line:
"Kafers, Alignment: Lawful Evil"
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Well, I knew in my heart it would come to this. Let me be a late well-wisher Colin, I bought the 2320 PDF and was excited by the revitalized setting you had devised. It's a great piece of work, thank you, and I'm sorry that it won't now see the light of day in the polished form it deserves.
But, I do have the setting, and I was never going to use the T20 rules anyway, I'm just missing the final layout and the great artwork that had been created (we'll say nothing about any planned supplements). I wonder if the copyright has reverted to the artists and whether they intend to publish their work elsewhere? For example, does Laurent plan to publish his fantastic starship visualizations on the (currently moribund) Etranger website?
Do any of the artists want to comment at this stage on their plans for the work they put in?
But, I do have the setting, and I was never going to use the T20 rules anyway, I'm just missing the final layout and the great artwork that had been created (we'll say nothing about any planned supplements). I wonder if the copyright has reverted to the artists and whether they intend to publish their work elsewhere? For example, does Laurent plan to publish his fantastic starship visualizations on the (currently moribund) Etranger website?
Do any of the artists want to comment at this stage on their plans for the work they put in?
FWIW the site isn't moribund, however RL and the day job gets in the way of updates and writing the articles, especially from the original contributors. There are a number of articles which will be moved from noticeboard to the main website in the next few months. My schedule allowing of course.
Dan
That's great, Dan, I hadn't been to Etranger for some time and visited again recently, and just noticed few recent updates. I'm glad to hear work's still ongoing, the material on that site is top notch, for the most part, especially the starship materials.
One day, all games will be supported that well.
John
One day, all games will be supported that well.
John
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