Then the dark secret of Charon's Ancient Jump Drive leaks...
Are the Aslan a major race?
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Then the dark secret of Charon's Ancient Jump Drive leaks...
mike wightman
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Not to mention Roswell being wither a Vegan or a Vilani ship crashing...
Those are on the base at Charon...
MThompson016
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On the SJGames JTAS, I remember a campaign idea where the Tunguska event was a Vilani ship crash, with the secret descendants having taken over Russia, and Roswell being a Vegan visit, with a Vegan advising a Western black op group involved in keeping the Truth from getting out.
"Droyne. Droyne are grey, too!"
When I first saw a front on view of the Droyne in the old Traveller Alien Module 5 my first thought was "That's a grey man!". I used the idea for a campaign using the Near Star List and the Droyne were from a world in the Alpha Centauri system having achieved jump and regularly observed Earth directly for centuries. Droyne being Droyne though they didn't do much about it but observes, experiment and catalogue. The Roswell incident was a droyne expedition gone bad and captured. Took quite some time to reverse engineer the technology and launch a prototype J-1 jumpship to their devastated homeworld. All the time the Droynes were a state secret.
When I first saw a front on view of the Droyne in the old Traveller Alien Module 5 my first thought was "That's a grey man!". I used the idea for a campaign using the Near Star List and the Droyne were from a world in the Alpha Centauri system having achieved jump and regularly observed Earth directly for centuries. Droyne being Droyne though they didn't do much about it but observes, experiment and catalogue. The Roswell incident was a droyne expedition gone bad and captured. Took quite some time to reverse engineer the technology and launch a prototype J-1 jumpship to their devastated homeworld. All the time the Droynes were a state secret.
When/where did that appear?
One of the Fanzines. I don't recall which.
So you're just stirring there, and it's not cannon?
It's a case of "Don considered it canon" - and included it in a draft he had me review.
Just because it's a fanzine doesn't mean it's not canon. Canon is whatever Marc says it is, and I got sent a bunch of fanzines for review prior to CD releases.
That there's an ancients base in the outer system of Sol is (IIRC) canonical - but it wasn't discovered before the JDrive. That there would be an ancients JD at such a base is in the nasty gray zone.
It is, however, pot stirring for the PC's who might be faced with "Terrans had a JDrive to work from and covered it up..."
Aaaaaah, that all makes sense then. I like the twist at the end. I can imagine an Aslan info-ops campaign trying to throw it back in face of the Solies to make the same claims that are made of the Aslan. Honour and all being at stake.
Have the Ancients been retconned to have more than just J-drive? Have they been give Hop or Skip or greater, or has that been considered, or considered but I can be told because my clearance/peerage is insufficient??
No one in Known Space had hop until Yot3I 1900±50, last I heard.
Granfather bypassed the faster drives - note that there is a T5 note that the various J-space drives (Jump, Hop, Skip, Leap, Bound, Vault) are not "Inevitable discoveries" - without the baseline TL-3 of the 1 version, you cannot discover them, but hitting the listed TL is no guarantee one does develop them.
Granfather is canonically at least TL 22. He's got pocket universes and portal drives, as well as Jump. Hop and Skip are less needed because he has near-instant portals, instead.
Nathan Brazil
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If you look at from T5 as a retcon from CT, Grandfather himself is TL 31 since he can create pocket universes and that is TL 31. Some of his sons created the other technologies on their own though.
TL Achievement (I think)
30 Stellar Scale Constructs
28 Not-Foam Manipulation
23 Practical Psychohistory
27 Reality Manipulation
29 Happiness
So is it possible that the sons might have stumbled upon the other drives on their own
TL Achievement (I think)
30 Stellar Scale Constructs
28 Not-Foam Manipulation
23 Practical Psychohistory
27 Reality Manipulation
29 Happiness
So is it possible that the sons might have stumbled upon the other drives on their own
Nathan Brazil
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On the other hand, depending if the dream sequence represents actual history, MgT's Secrets of the Ancients implies "heretical" technologies :CoW: like
super-fast jump relay grid (comparable to the X-Boat network, but composed of millions of jump-capable microdrones)
Ansibles - realtime FTL communication over tens of parsecs operating on a higher level of jump space
because you know :CoW:
super-fast jump relay grid (comparable to the X-Boat network, but composed of millions of jump-capable microdrones)
Ansibles - realtime FTL communication over tens of parsecs operating on a higher level of jump space
because you know :CoW:
Nathan Brazil
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Yes.
"Back in -2550 or so, the ancient Terran philosopher Bobby McFerrin first theorized Practical Happiness, an amazing thought experiment for a TL 7 culture."
The understanding of happiness has been a scientific endeavour for a while, with some people having possibly hit on good methods to enable others to find it by way of measurable steps. Nathan's got the quote. As a science, at our TL8 it's pretty hit-and-miss, and requires a lot of time and resources to deal with the trickier members of society who struggle to achieve it. At higher TL it could be a given.
mike wightman
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Happyness - a feeling of contentment, a lack of conflict, an appreciation of self-worth in all endeavours, a sense of accomplishment...
socially engineer your entire population to be like that - that's what I assume the T5 technology of happiness is.
A lot of the 'evolved' races encountered in Star Trek exhibit this trait.
socially engineer your entire population to be like that - that's what I assume the T5 technology of happiness is.
A lot of the 'evolved' races encountered in Star Trek exhibit this trait.
Assuming I haven't missed something and the standard definition of a Major Race has been one that developed of its own accord the Jump Drive, is that by 1115IC the most effective means of measuring a race's membership in that exclusive club?
Given the extent of Aslan exploration, settlement, engagement and intermingling with other races and polities, and the longevity of the Hierate, would that not be sufficient for them to be able to be classified as a Major Race? The converse are the Droyne, but they still get the epithet don't they?
Given the extent of Aslan exploration, settlement, engagement and intermingling with other races and polities, and the longevity of the Hierate, would that not be sufficient for them to be able to be classified as a Major Race? The converse are the Droyne, but they still get the epithet don't they?
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