CT 400ton Patrol Cruiser

[Blue Ghost]

I casually noticed that that configuration from the PC in CT has changed somewhat for T20. Was there any particular reason this was done?

Myself, I'm not a big fan of Keith's artwork, but I did like the Patrol Cruiser he sketched for CT.

p.s. where are the deckplans for the CT patrol cruiser?

 

[BetterThanLife]

The Type-T Patrol Corvette (I hate referring to it as a Cruiser.) illustration in the T20 Hand Book, is slightly modified from the one FASA did years ago. (Also the one in the MT Encyclopedia.) The FASA Adventure Class ships Volume II contained the deck plans for the Type-T on the box cover.

There are several other plans for the Type-T, or variations available on the Internet. And SGS promisses that they will rerelease the Adventure Class Ships Volume II deck plans but they have been promising that for a while now.

 

[mike wightman]

I thought the difference in all of the ship illustrations is due to the default setting for T20 being 100 years before CT?

 

[Blue Ghost]

You hate it in the same way I hate referring to police cars as "cruisers."

I always get the image of this Guided Missile ship on wheels when I hear the word "cruiser" in reference to a police car. But I digress...

I had forgotten about the FASA deck plans series. Thanks for the reminder.

The Patrol ship was based off of the "mothership" for the Star-Blade entry in the old Stewar Cowley Spaceage books. The Star-blade itself was referenced as a fast moving shuttle with a bulbous front attached to a fat delta fuselage. The painting on the entry show two or three leaving a vessel that looks frightenly like the 400 ton Patrol ship for CT.

But I dgress.

Sigg; is that the milieu for T20? Huh, I better reread the intro.

 

[mike wightman]

I don't know if it's mentioned in the main book, but the Gateway sector book, the TAs, and the Gateway based adventures are all set around 990.

 

[daryen]

I also always call it the Police Corvette.

The only two published deckplans I have ever seen for it are the aforementioned Adventure Class Ships Vol II, and in GT: Starships.

Do note that both floorplans have some issues with them, but are both workable.

There are also several Type T deckplans on the web, too. Notably:
http://www.schirf.com/traveller/Trenchant.html
(other plans: http://www.schirf.com/traveller/CC2.html)
http://www.sff.net/people/kitsune/traveller/images/typet.png
(other plans: http://www.sff.net/people/kitsune/traveller/index.htm)

 

[BetterThanLife]

Originally posted by Sigg Oddra:
I don't know if it's mentioned in the main book, but the Gateway sector book, the TAs, and the Gateway based adventures are all set around 990.

That may be so but since the ship was never updated past TL12 might have stayed the same for hundreds of years. (If it works, why change it.

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[GypsyComet]

That's easy. Starship architects are human (in some form), so there will always be new renditions of things that work...

 

[BetterThanLife]

Originally posted by GypsyComet:
That's easy. Starship architects are human (in some form), so there will always be new renditions of things that work...

True, true. This years model versus last years model. But in general the tried and true will remain in service.Especially with starship lifespans in the apparent 100+ years.

Would you buy a new unproven starship design or one where you already know the useful life expectancy is in excess of 100 years, just because of a few cosmetic changes? Especially with the cost of one of those puppies.

 

[GypsyComet]

"Would you buy a used starship from this man?"

There will always be factors that lead to new designs being considered, solicited, and built. As noted above, both common versions of the Type T plans have "issues". If we assume that "issues" exist even in the real thing for some subset of the potential customer base, then variants will appear.

Case in point, and one that seems to have snow-balled, is the Type A2. While reworking the A2 (by restatting to 400 tons to match the plans) for my campaign, it was noted by my players that there was "no way they were going to traverse an airlock in their PJs to get coffee in the middle of night-shift". Thus was born the corridor between the two halves of the crew quarters, to provide a buffer against the fore cargo lock and the cargo bay. In due course the deckplans were finished and posted to my website, and now that corridor is popping up in other renditions of the A2 all over the web...

 

[vegascat]

Does anyone have any information on how long old European navies kept wooden hulled ships of the line in service? I would guess they were in active service for well over 100 years in many cases, but I don't have the fact at hand.

 

[BetterThanLife]

Originally posted by vegascat:
Does anyone have any information on how long old European navies kept wooden hulled ships of the line in service? I would guess they were in active service for well over 100 years in many cases, but I don't have the fact at hand.

In Traveller we have some ships that have been in service less than 30 years being retired due to metal fatigue but others serving over 130 years. Some designs are over 120 years old but others that are brand new are retired earlier. (Atlantic and AHL vs. Perisher for example.)