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CT Rampart class Fighter stat request.

far-trader

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I don't seem to have the JTAS (not surprising since I sold most of them ages ago and still haven't picked up that CD) that had the original design and stats of the Rampart class 15 ton fighter. A wide ranging search of the net turned up next to no data on it.

Could I trouble someone with access to that JTAS (or possible the reprint of it in Challenge 27) to PM me or post the USP and notes here?

I've got a USP string for it but don't trust it as original, it looks house ruled. And I've got the MT version, which is different I'm sure so not what I need either. Beyond that all I've found are the scant notes in the AHL game but I am still wondering what the actual design was.

Thanks in advance.
 
From Supplement 5:

The Rampart RF-128 and RF-1282 fighters are small streamlined combat craft with stubby wings and limited control surfaces. The wings are semi-retractable, enough to reduce the craft's diameter to 3 meters and allow use in the launch tube.
Each fighter is a 15-ton craft constructed at tech level 15. The two different models have two distinct features- weaponry and crew size.
The Single Place Fighter is laser armed, and has only one position- for a pilot.
The Dual Place Fighter is missile armed, and has two crew positions in its double cockpit. The craft is used for squadron command and control in combat situations.
In addition, the dual place configuration is used for training of new pilots or for periodic check-rides for pilots within the squadron.

Rampart RF-128 FF-0106611-000000-40000-0 (Single Seater)
Rampart RF-128-2 FF-0106611-000000-000003-0 (Dual Seater)

From Challenge #27:
Fighter Profile: The Rampart IV and V
FF 77 RAMPART IV
Origin: IDS Corp., a division of Sternmetal Horizons.
Type: Fighter/interceptor, interplanetary, all atmospheres.
Engine: IDS Mk.68H 1 Fusion Chamber.
Dimensions: l=8.10m, w=4.27m, h =2.66m.
Weights: Max. loaded =20.0 tons, dry= 14.8 tons.
Performance: Max. acc.=6g, agility=6.
Armament: two Jannen Mk.5TR Fusion Cannons.
History: First flight on 1107 364, service IOC on 1109 130.
User. Imperial Navy.
The Rampart IV project, secret until recently, was given a high priority due to the Zhodani invasion of the Spinward Marches in 1105. After many years of slow development and near cancellation, work was finally accelerated and the Imperial Navy awarded a development and production contract to IDS Corp. (Imperial Dynamic Systems Corp., of Ansenclorn/Core) in 1106. In 1107, the first prototype began flight testing at a secret test location. IOC (Initial Operational Capability) was achieved in 1109 when the FF 77 Rampart IV deployed to the Spinward Marches. Further details of the fighter's combat career are classified, but rumor has it that it is a "pilot's ship" and highly effective.
Much of this effectiveness may be due to its Naasirka LP 65N 7/R computer. Reportedly, the ship's performance has given it considerable popularity among pilots.
Rampart IV is also fitted with a 0.4 ton, type M 4/WQ24 ESU (Ejection and Survival Unit). The ESU has a rocket ejection unit, extra fuel for short duration travel (2g max) or surface landing, emergency life support, a rescue beacon (variable frequency), and a 50kg survival kit which includes food, a combo filter/resp mask, an instant shelter, and a weapon.
Code:
RAMPART IV
High Guard Statistics:
FF 0106SR1 10000 05000 0
                  2
                  2
TL=15, 20 tons, Fuel =5.2 tons, Agility=6, Cost=MCr27.85

FF 81 RAMPART V
Origin: LSP Military Technologies Group.
Type: Ship killer, surface attack, interplanetary, all atmospheres.
Engine: IDS Mk.68K 7 Fusion Chamber.
Dimensions: 1=9.33m, w=5.65m, h =2.34m.
Weights: Max. loaded =20.0 tons, dry= 15.2 tons.
Performance: Max. acc.=6g, agility=6.
Armament: Two Amborg/Daniksen PS 33 Mk.1 six place missile launchers, each carrying twelve missiles.
History: First flight on 1108 042, service IOC on 1109 252. User: Imperial
Navy.
A brother project to the Rampart IV, the Rampart V contract was awarded by the Imperial Navy to LSP/MTG Div. in 1106. Its engines are a modified version of the Rampart IV's and it uses two of the M4/WQ24 ESU's for a pilot and a weapon's operator (gunner). Its computer is the larger Naasirka LP 66N 3/3 which uses various weapons delivery programs.
A unique feature of the Rampart V system is the ability to allow up to five ships (usually four) to combine their missile launches into one salvo which is equivalent to a missile factor seven.
One of the four craft is designated as the leader and enters the appropriate program into his computer (1 space, 2MCO while the other four fighters load a corresponding gunnery program (1 space, .5MCr). The four computers update each other via short range microwave communications run automatically.
If the leader's ship loses its computer capability, then each of the ships must fire its weapons independently. Maximum size of the formation of four (microwave commo range) is 5000km.
RAMPART V
High Guard Statistics:
FM 0106MS1 K0000 00004 0
TL = 15, 20 tons, Fuel = 4.2 tons, Agility = 6, Cost = MCr33.2 (dry) Carries twelve (12) missiles; 4 per launcher.
Weight of Ejection/Survival Unit (ESU) = 0.4 tons ea.

REFEREE'S INFORMATION:
Firing individually, each Rampart V adds its gunner's DM to the DMs from 'Predict' programs, if used. This procedure results in a net DM for each fighter. For the factor seven (to hit and damage) salvo shot these net DMs are averaged over all four ships to produce a DM for the salvo.
Also: The Rampart V's two hardpoints (see illustration) support the equivalent of a triple turret in weaponry. The missile launchers may be replaced with droppable ordnance, ECM pods (self-powered, act as ECM computer program), intelligence gathering equipment, or two 1.5 ton cargo/fuel pods. Refs, use your imagination.

(The illustration looks an awful lot like a single seater F-15.)

So, what happened to the Rampart III?
 
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My indebtedness knows no bounds :)

And I'm either going selectively blind, or getting stupider. I totally missed the small craft USP in S5 even though I was hunting for them :nonono:

...

(The illustration looks an awful lot like a single seater F-15.)

I always thought the same, and that it didn't look anywhere near as big as 15 tons.

So, what happened to the Rampart III?

:D Welll...

...that's part of the reason I was needing the info you supplied. I may have the story of the Rampart III and the design as part of my current project and I might be posting it up soon. Unless there is an official canon story behind it...

Again, much thanks!
 
Try an F-16... not an F-15. The 16 is the single engine. The 14 and 16 are both twin engine wide and flat configuartions.

Also, when posting HG USP's, it really helps to post them inside code tags, otherwise the formatting for the batts and bear lines is lost.
 
See the Gallery under Spacecraft. Data for these were taken from the AHL Boxed Set. There were drawings of the Ramparts included with the deckplans.
 
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I did earlier, and nicely done up too Shadow Bear. Mind if I link and reference them from future posts on the subject?

Of course they suffer the same problem that the canon ones share, much too small to be 15 dtons. But that's a rant for another thread, which I'm sure I've done often enough :)
 
I did earlier, and nicely done up too Shadow Bear. Mind if I link and reference them from future posts on the subject?

Of course they suffer the same problem that the canon ones share, much too small to be 15 dtons. But that's a rant for another thread, which I'm sure I've done often enough :)

No problem. As I said they come from the AHL Boxed set and are not my designs, just my artwork.

Other deck[lans are available on my website www.winterpass.com on the Shipyard page. (note these are older designs that I have not yet cleaned up)
 
Try an F-16... not an F-15. The 16 is the single engine. The 14 and 16 are both twin engine wide and flat configuartions.

I think he is talking about the cut-away illustration in Challenge 27, which to my eyes also looks like an F-15 (and definitely not an F-16 which looks entirely different).
 
I think he is talking about the cut-away illustration in Challenge 27, which to my eyes also looks like an F-15 (and definitely not an F-16 which looks entirely different).

The cutaway is an F15 without wings, and includes a Paveway bomb and an ALQ 119 (?) electronics pod. The picture on the page before is an F15 with wings.

The Arrival Vengeance and TNE version look completely different. They're also only 10 tons.
 
I think he is talking about the cut-away illustration in Challenge 27, which to my eyes also looks like an F-15 (and definitely not an F-16 which looks entirely different).

Ah, that is ringing some bells now that you mention cutaway. Anyway...

The Arrival Vengeance and TNE version look completely different. They're also only 10 tons.

And the Challenge version (MT?) is obviously 20 mass tons and not displacement.

None of which are quite what I'm after, though enlightening in their own ways. I thought maybe the Challenge 'reprint' of the CT version would have been more true to the original, you know, a Reprint...

...it's not even close and the HG USP armor is so wrong as to be useless for CT.

So, thanks again to everyone, the stuff collected here is quite helpful, but I'm still wondering what the original CT in the JTAS article had that differs (if it does) from the S5 treatment (which is in it's own ways odd... dare I say broken?). Any help there?
 
The JTAS#14 version used Striker!

I had half a sneaking suspicion it did, fits with the USP I had still in the files, like the Challenge version then, with Striker armor values and weight instead of proper HG armor values and displacement.

Thanks for the confirmation Andrew, guess I'll 'reinvent' it then ;)
 
The JTAS#14 version used Striker!

And was done by J.D. Webster, who went on to design GDW's well-regarded modern air combat boardgame 'Air Superiority'.

Anyway, it is fifty mass tons and has Striker (same in MT) armour of 60 all round. Single 250MW beam laser. No use whatsoever in any other system, nor for space combat with the scanty details given.
 
There's a GT version in the main GT book as well.

Mike

Hmm, don't have any GT and my little time talking to GT gearheads (a year or so and several design contests on the forum) left me with a distinctly sour taste for the design system. Still, I wonder if there's any salvage in looking at the design? Is it possible for you to PM me or post a look at the particulars? No worry if it's a hassle :)
 
The Rampart on page 77 of MT's Rebellion Sourcebook is very F-16ish... And is an MT Craft design, rather than an MT Aircraft Design.

CraftlD: Fighter, TL 15, MCr14.23
Hull: 9/22.5, Disp = 10, Config = 3AF, Armor = 40G,
Unloaded = 4.6tons, Loaded = 18.7tons
Power: 1/2, Fusion = 186Mw, Duration = 5/15
Loco: 1 /2, StdGravThrust = 1 173tons, NOE= l2Okph, Cruise=2835kph, Top= 3780kph
Agility = 6
Sensors: PassiveEMS = lnterplanet x 1, ActiveEMS = Planet x 1, ActObjScan = Diff, ActObjPin = Diff, PasEngScan = Rout
Commo: Radio = System x 1
Off: BeamLaser = x02
Batt 1
Bear 1
Def: DefDM = + 10
Control: Computer = 2 x 3, Panel = HoloLink x 47, Special = HeadsUp x 1,
Environ = BasEnv, BasLS, ExtLS, GravPlates, InertialComp
Accomm: Crew = 1 (Operator = I), Seats = roomy x 1
Other: Cargo = 6.75kliters, Fuel = 33.6kliters.
ObjSize =small, EMLevel =faint
Comments: The fighter is an armed, grav-powered space vehicle often carried on larger military vessels as a subordinate craft.
 
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