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CT Only: Type T Deckplans, Fixed

has curiously a tail-sitter Type S (the classic wedge) scout in it.
I was actually going to suggest a classic wedge Type-S deckplan redone as a tail sitter, with the "lounge and air/raft" spaces redone as landing gear. Just need to have a central grav lift shaft for access between decks, presumably with a redundant manual hatch adjacent (for a 1x2 "vertical access path"). The result would be somewhat "tree-like" for the arrangement of interior spaces (drives are the "roots" at the aft end, the vertical access line is the "trunk" along the centerline, staterooms & etc. with the bridge and avionics spaces in the bow. Fire control, air/raft berth and cargo spaces would be along the "spines" of the ship, just like with the belly lander.
 
Doubtful considering where the bulk of the mass of the ship is.
Approximately half the mass of a tree is underground inside the roots ... and even they can get uprooted and knocked over by high winds.

Compare that to a starship where ALL of the mass is above ground and is just "sitting" on landing gear ... 🌲 vs 🌪️ = TIMBER!
 
Simply not true and ignorant of basic tree physics. :)

The effective centre of mass of a scout ship sitting on its tail is so low that the ship is going nowhere unless a very strong hurricane blows, way more than is needed to up root trees. There are not many trees that have a mass of 1000 metric tons.
 
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Weight and base, I would think.

How much does a hundred tonne scoutship weigh, average, and how far apart is the landing gear.
 
Had an insight as to the possible explanation for the big wingtip fins: they could hold gravity field projectors that cover the wing upper and lower surfaces, in order to control airflow over them (enhancing lift and preventing stalls).

Hey, it's all fiction anyhow. :)
 
Just a crosslink for convenience:

Details of the "Yacht conversion" (modifications to turn the Type T into a VIP transport) from my PbP are here:


Just for future-proofing:
Thread: Forums > Play By Post >Play by Post - OOC >Boughene Station Blues (Out-of-Character Thread) > post #606 (May 9, 2022)
 
This is a month-long project (see COTI thread Fixing the Type T Deck Plans?) provoked by the discovery that the deck plans provided in FASA's Adventure Class Ships, Vol. II for the Type T Patrol Cruiser did not match the illustration on the cover of the box. Not only that, but also they didn't match the description of the Type T Patrol Cruiser given in LBB2 '81, p. 20. Further, the plans themselves, while satisfactory for most situations in which player characters would interact with a ship of that class, do not represent a usable layout for the hypothetical crew working aboard it – for example, they lack common spaces such as wardrooms and galleys.

What follows is my interpretation of that cover illustration.[SPOILER="Draftsman's Notes"]
It's likely quite similar to the deck plans upon which that illustration was based, with a few minor changes. The first is that I've provided individual cabins for each flight crew member including the gunners (who are double-bunked in the LBB2 description, and almost certainly were on those plans as well) while retaining the same overall crew space (40Td, or 10 stateroom-equivalents) for those personnel. The second is that I've interpreted the layout as being a split-level design, with the flight deck and foredeck at a level halfway between the upper and lower mid/aft decks. (In the original plans, the foredeck's vertical offset might have involved stairs or stair-step floor height changes rather than an elevator.) The third change is that I've moved the Low Passage Berths from behind the flight deck to the aft end of the ship's troops' barracks on the lower deck.

Notably, the ACS Vol. II deck plans moved the Ship's Boat from underslung external grapples into the clamshell bay at the aft end of the top deck, and the GCarrier from that clamshell bay to one just forward of it. These revised plans have reversed those re-locations.
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Except for the lateral section view, the plans are in 0.25"=1.5m scale. The lateral section view is half-sized (0.25"=3m).

Subsequent plan elements in this thread are natively* 0.5"=1.5m (suitable for 28mm figures when printed out at full size, and each section can be printed on 8.5"x11" paper within the printable area of the sheet).

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*Right-click and open image in new page, then save the image from there.
Where can I find a program like this that allows you to draw deck plans?
 
Where can I find a program like this that allows you to draw deck plans?
I did it in MS Paint. Seriously. Started with *.bmp files, saved as *.jpg to upload when done.

I took some shortcuts, like making the pink grid of 1.5m (0.5" as drawn, 1 pixel width) first as a separate image. (Vertical lines at 0.5" spacing, do a few, then copy and paste that block of lines (use "paste transparent" to get the alignment right)). Repeat for horizontal lines. Make up a file of an 8*10.5" area (8.5*11 minus the margins) with the grid, that you can copy from (or copy that file and rename it. Do the fixtures (beds, iris valves, hatches) in a separate file for copy/pasting.

I set the scale (in file attributes) to inches to make the math easier for me. Used the stock line widths (1, 3, 5, etc. pixels wide). Draw in the scale you're printing at -- if you have to scale it up, it's going to look messy (I had some serious "Deck Plans by Lego" examples in the Work-in-Progress thread!) Scaling down isn't quite as bad, but still not optimal. Do the design work in *.bmp, then save copies in *.jpg to upload since the forum doesn't like *.bmp files. If needed (and depending on your use case, it might well be needed), find an open-source image editor that can save to *.svg or whatever you need, open the *.bmp file in that and save as the desired file type.

The math itself? Slightly more complex. I mentioned some of it in the work-in-progress thread. You can find calculators for various geometric shapes online with a simple search. Might need to plug them into a spreadsheet (I did) if you're doing something complex. My Type S as a Prolate Spheroid Tailsitter (link to post with final deck plans and details) needed a lot of calculations of spheroid sections, and in large part I approximated those. (Either: area of more-central end of slice times two, plus area of more-distal end, divide by three, multiply by height; or, use the figure for a section of a sphere from an online calculator and hope it's close; or, do both and pick whichever looks more correct...)

This is the hard way to do it, I admit. CAD or 3-D modeling programs would be much easier... but Paint is free with Windows, and I had drafting and geometry skills from long ago.
 
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Try LibreOffice. It has an object based drawing program, it's free, lots of features, cross platform
I tried Inkscape a while ago, mostly for filetype conversion (a non-started t-ahirt project i thought would require *.svg files), but I think it provides for rotation of selected objects.

Ought to mess with it a bit again.
 
I tried Inkscape a while ago, mostly for filetype conversion (a non-started t-ahirt project i thought would require *.svg files), but I think it provides for rotation of selected objects.

Ought to mess with it a bit again.
If you are comfortable with Adobe Illustrator Inkscape is fine.
 
Try LibreOffice.
For those of us who are MacOS users, the current release of LibreOffice is not compatible with pre-OSX10.14 versions.

Since my computer model/OS is "vintage" enough (closing in on 12 years since purchase!) to be limited to 10.13.6 and is functionally abandonware at this point, LibreOffice will have to wait (for me) until the M3 iMac Minis finally make it to public release.
 
Well, for MacOS there's always the Apple apps: Keynote notably, but the drawing engine in Pages (and, well, Numbers), is pretty much the same.
 
For those of us who are MacOS users, the current release of LibreOffice is not compatible with pre-OSX10.14 versions.

Since my computer model/OS is "vintage" enough (closing in on 12 years since purchase!) to be limited to 10.13.6 and is functionally abandonware at this point, LibreOffice will have to wait (for me) until the M3 iMac Minis finally make it to public release.
Should have bought the million credit level model and several hundred thousand credit library- free upgrades!
 
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