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Cybertech.. How do you handle it in CT?

I'm thinking the public at large might have trouble with augmentations that excede 'normal'...lifting ground cars with one arm, runnig 100kph...but, 'occupational' and 'medical replacements' are different...

look at harper from andromeda tv series, the neural link is just an accepted part of his job, its a tool...but replacing his forearm with a micro-swissarmy knife tool assembly would make/could make people uncomfortable, especially if an area had a history of 'cyber-soldier wars' or some such...(ofcourse DEALING with that kind of paranoia would be an interesting PC situation to roleplay...torches, pitchfoks, angry townsfolk)

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I'm thinking the public at large might have trouble with augmentations that excede 'normal'...lifting ground cars with one arm, runnig 100kph...but, 'occupational' and 'medical replacements' are different...

look at harper from andromeda tv series, the neural link is just an accepted part of his job, its a tool...but replacing his forearm with a micro-swissarmy knife tool assembly would make/could make people uncomfortable, especially if an area had a history of 'cyber-soldier wars' or some such...(ofcourse DEALING with that kind of paranoia would be an interesting PC situation to roleplay...torches, pitchfoks, angry townsfolk)

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...call it an outloud thought...
 
From the expanded technology chart in MT Referee's Companion:
TL8 artificial organs
TL11 artificial eyes
TL12 enhanced prosthetics
TL14 brain implants <includes neural interfaces>
 
From the expanded technology chart in MT Referee's Companion:
TL8 artificial organs
TL11 artificial eyes
TL12 enhanced prosthetics
TL14 brain implants <includes neural interfaces>
 
Nurd_boy, I think that you have hit the nail on the head right there. The lower the TL the more intolerance one might expect from cyber-augmentation.

The higher the TL, the more battledress and related products provide an exo-skeleton that allows one to do the same thing as a cyber-enhancement, thereby, making cyberwear simply a cyber-fetish.

The idea of a cyberpunk Traveller is no neccessarily a bad thing - afterall, I think of Hard Times as an experiment in a Darker form of Traveller. It is just important that the entire Traveller universe is not consumed by it which is why I elect Dag. to serve as the cyberpunk sector and other sectors could have the odd cyberpunk world.
 
Nurd_boy, I think that you have hit the nail on the head right there. The lower the TL the more intolerance one might expect from cyber-augmentation.

The higher the TL, the more battledress and related products provide an exo-skeleton that allows one to do the same thing as a cyber-enhancement, thereby, making cyberwear simply a cyber-fetish.

The idea of a cyberpunk Traveller is no neccessarily a bad thing - afterall, I think of Hard Times as an experiment in a Darker form of Traveller. It is just important that the entire Traveller universe is not consumed by it which is why I elect Dag. to serve as the cyberpunk sector and other sectors could have the odd cyberpunk world.
 
I'm thinking that it isn't so much the TL, but the socity. From Star Wars, the Yuuzong Vung would despise you for uising machines of any type. Neichtziens (i'm pretty sure that is how you spell it) on the other hand, would be abosolutley thrilled at this personal enhancement (IMTU, we play with a lot of Andromeda ripped off). IMTU, cyber enhancements aren't socially acceptable, but many people do the simpler stuff. Anything that "looks" human or normal for non human spicies is fine. a good trick is to use the Biobots system from book 8 to jack up the price on the simplest of things, so it's possible, but not neccisarily cost effective. Psionics are so much cooler anyway(my party and i are PsiCommandos)
 
I'm thinking that it isn't so much the TL, but the socity. From Star Wars, the Yuuzong Vung would despise you for uising machines of any type. Neichtziens (i'm pretty sure that is how you spell it) on the other hand, would be abosolutley thrilled at this personal enhancement (IMTU, we play with a lot of Andromeda ripped off). IMTU, cyber enhancements aren't socially acceptable, but many people do the simpler stuff. Anything that "looks" human or normal for non human spicies is fine. a good trick is to use the Biobots system from book 8 to jack up the price on the simplest of things, so it's possible, but not neccisarily cost effective. Psionics are so much cooler anyway(my party and i are PsiCommandos)
 
Granted if you are playing in a variant universe. One has to remember the Imperium is not a solid society but 11,000 different societies and as long as a Cyborg still retains its humanity then it is a citizen.

Nothwithstanding, it requires a certain maturity of a society which is commonly expressed in its TL...that would make things more or less tolerant of technology. But, as I said each world will be different in its treatment of cyberware but given most cultures adversion to the different...Robocop would have to find a different beat.
 
Granted if you are playing in a variant universe. One has to remember the Imperium is not a solid society but 11,000 different societies and as long as a Cyborg still retains its humanity then it is a citizen.

Nothwithstanding, it requires a certain maturity of a society which is commonly expressed in its TL...that would make things more or less tolerant of technology. But, as I said each world will be different in its treatment of cyberware but given most cultures adversion to the different...Robocop would have to find a different beat.
 
Again, this is a matter of taste and preferences. The OTU Imperium seems to me quite conservative in general; individual worlds may vary in thier politics culture and/or economical significance, but some social norms and forms are extremely commonplace, promoted by trade and the economy of the Imperium. Technology which could bring a radical change to society are slow to be accepted - this is probably a carry-over from the Ziru Shirka; Vilani culture, as a rule, is the essence of conservativism.

I prefer MTU a few inches more towards Cyberpunk, but not "hardcore" Cyberpunk. That is, I prefer an Alien(s)-style atmosphere rather than a Dune one, but not an Andromeda one as well. Biomod-races exist, but are rarely created; created a Human variant is EXTREMELY expensive and time consuming, and most corporations/polities do so only when there is a real reason to. So there are Human-created aquatic-adaptation and zero-grav-adaptation Human subspecies, but not much more than that. There are smart computers, accepted to a certain degree, but not real AIs (this is still TL12, though...). "Smart" Robots aren't too common, mainly for economical reasons.
 
Again, this is a matter of taste and preferences. The OTU Imperium seems to me quite conservative in general; individual worlds may vary in thier politics culture and/or economical significance, but some social norms and forms are extremely commonplace, promoted by trade and the economy of the Imperium. Technology which could bring a radical change to society are slow to be accepted - this is probably a carry-over from the Ziru Shirka; Vilani culture, as a rule, is the essence of conservativism.

I prefer MTU a few inches more towards Cyberpunk, but not "hardcore" Cyberpunk. That is, I prefer an Alien(s)-style atmosphere rather than a Dune one, but not an Andromeda one as well. Biomod-races exist, but are rarely created; created a Human variant is EXTREMELY expensive and time consuming, and most corporations/polities do so only when there is a real reason to. So there are Human-created aquatic-adaptation and zero-grav-adaptation Human subspecies, but not much more than that. There are smart computers, accepted to a certain degree, but not real AIs (this is still TL12, though...). "Smart" Robots aren't too common, mainly for economical reasons.
 
Originally posted by Employee 2-4601:
So there are Human-created aquatic-adaptation...
Click to expand...
Like the world Nexine in the Mora subsector of the Spinward Marches:
Nexine ia an underpopulated water world currently being used by the Ministry of Conservation for reseeding efforts using biologically altered humans.
Click to expand...
CT Supplement 3: The Spinward Marches © 1979

Looks like biomods have been part of Traveller canon for a long time now ;)
 
Originally posted by Employee 2-4601:
So there are Human-created aquatic-adaptation...
Click to expand...
Like the world Nexine in the Mora subsector of the Spinward Marches:
Nexine ia an underpopulated water world currently being used by the Ministry of Conservation for reseeding efforts using biologically altered humans.
Click to expand...
CT Supplement 3: The Spinward Marches © 1979

Looks like biomods have been part of Traveller canon for a long time now ;)
 
Indeed, but 2-4601 brings up a good point, and that is the generally more socially conservative nature of the Vilani strain of humaniti. If anyone was going to go for cybernetics, it would be the Solomani.

In my opinion.

John
 
Indeed, but 2-4601 brings up a good point, and that is the generally more socially conservative nature of the Vilani strain of humaniti. If anyone was going to go for cybernetics, it would be the Solomani.

In my opinion.

John
 
^ I agree with John. When you're struggling to retain your status as a galactic power and don't have the population to support large scale warfare, you are going to try just about anything to achieve an advantage.

Look at the Nazi experimental weapon programs; if the Nazis could have fielded cyber-soldiers, the probably would have.
 
^ I agree with John. When you're struggling to retain your status as a galactic power and don't have the population to support large scale warfare, you are going to try just about anything to achieve an advantage.

Look at the Nazi experimental weapon programs; if the Nazis could have fielded cyber-soldiers, the probably would have.
 
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