I second the motion put forth by Flynn, Hunter-Ancient-bossman! We'll be better stacked against the hordes next time around, with a battery of stuff to have, players to show it to<cuz most all of us were refs who had it on them there>...and we smoke their wee D20 world's a new crater..err, game to buy..play..you know what I mean.<"Look I'm not the marketer, I just manipulate events,--a Hiver at gunpoint explains itself>