ghost in the shell (movie)
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ShapeShifter
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Some reviews are, at best, lukewarm. That's what happens when they remake what is already a masterpiece.
I thought the anime was exceptional, particularly the opening scenes (the first five minutes or so), but the film had a kind of anti-climactic ending.
I'm just baffled why any studio thought it was a good idea to adopt that property to a live action film.
And yeah, the TL-11 thing is apt, and it is a thing missing from the CT tech base.
I'm just baffled why any studio thought it was a good idea to adopt that property to a live action film.
And yeah, the TL-11 thing is apt, and it is a thing missing from the CT tech base.
Because they thought it would sell enough tickets to make a profit. Same as with any other property.
Less literally, because Anime rerelease wouldn't make them much at all, but a live action might.
- It's commonly held that animation sells less well than live action.
- It's blackletter law that copyrights need to be refreshed with reworks.
- It's well known that Japanese animation doesn't do well in the US nor EU markets.
- It's been shown that Japanese Animation remakes into live action US movies do reasonably well in both the US and EU. (See also Transformers.)
Given the conditions, and that the Anime in question is reasonably successful in the US already, doing the live action is a no-brainer. At least if one has a reasonable view of what sells.
The words Script Writers are cuss words in my house.
Condottiere
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Studios are looking for the next successful movie genre that will appeal to a mass global audience, like the Marvel Universe.
Disney has been consistently been successful in leveraging the IP, but that's because they're really thinking it through and have a very long range strategy.
Superhero movies tended to be pretty goofy, and Warner still doesn't seem to have figured out the correct formula.
You'll need a production team who has the time and money to invest in anime related movies to bring them alive, figuring out what's universally appealing, without compromising those aspects which make them unique.
The obvious choice would be a life action remake of Cowboy Bebop, which is far enough away from Japanese cultural references that most people won't be privy to, except that part that where everyone dies at the end.
Disney has been consistently been successful in leveraging the IP, but that's because they're really thinking it through and have a very long range strategy.
Superhero movies tended to be pretty goofy, and Warner still doesn't seem to have figured out the correct formula.
You'll need a production team who has the time and money to invest in anime related movies to bring them alive, figuring out what's universally appealing, without compromising those aspects which make them unique.
The obvious choice would be a life action remake of Cowboy Bebop, which is far enough away from Japanese cultural references that most people won't be privy to, except that part that where everyone dies at the end.
in all previous media the Major was a female infant too badly burned in a plane crash to determen race, she was striped back to just a brain and raised as a Cyborg. Motoko is just the latest of a long line of aliases used over her lifetime, she dosen't know her birth name.
she has already bean race-lifted once (to being raised Japanese in a vaguely Japanese shell) when they made Stand Alone Complex, before that she was racially indistinct female living in a pan-oriental city (most likely Hong Kong or Singapore), lay that on some SJW when they go on about "White Washing".
@ Spartan159, "Script Writer" should not be a dirty word in your house, it should be "Studio Executive" and "Hack Minion". track down an article I think it's called "Confessions of a Script Butcher" it's buy a "guy" who claims his job is to take scripts the studios have optioned that would be good but not profitable as a major film and turn them in to Slock so the studios can claim they went forward in good faith and keep the script out of the hands of smaller & Indi production houses till the project is sufficiently poisoned. some of the worst dumpster firers of the past decade have bean scripts that have bean across his desk that the studio suddenly thought they could turn a buck on, but they didn't un-butcher (enough) before going in to production.
she has already bean race-lifted once (to being raised Japanese in a vaguely Japanese shell) when they made Stand Alone Complex, before that she was racially indistinct female living in a pan-oriental city (most likely Hong Kong or Singapore), lay that on some SJW when they go on about "White Washing".
@ Spartan159, "Script Writer" should not be a dirty word in your house, it should be "Studio Executive" and "Hack Minion". track down an article I think it's called "Confessions of a Script Butcher" it's buy a "guy" who claims his job is to take scripts the studios have optioned that would be good but not profitable as a major film and turn them in to Slock so the studios can claim they went forward in good faith and keep the script out of the hands of smaller & Indi production houses till the project is sufficiently poisoned. some of the worst dumpster firers of the past decade have bean scripts that have bean across his desk that the studio suddenly thought they could turn a buck on, but they didn't un-butcher (enough) before going in to production.
I won't get too political here.
I'll just note that many (I'm not saying ALL) of the same persons who are upset about ''white-washing'' seem very pleased every time a comic publisher, film producer, etc. does the opposite, and recasts/redraws a white character as black or brown.
And they have been known to get a bit hysterical with anybody who criticizes, even mildly, such changes to previously European/white characters.
I don't think Hollywood execs actually care that much, either way. They just cast stars they can boost ticket sales.
How many Japanese actresses are as famous in the States as Scarlett Johansen?
And are associated with a role like Black Widow, an action girl/spy?
It was an obvious pick, assuming she was available and within budget.
I'll just note that many (I'm not saying ALL) of the same persons who are upset about ''white-washing'' seem very pleased every time a comic publisher, film producer, etc. does the opposite, and recasts/redraws a white character as black or brown.
And they have been known to get a bit hysterical with anybody who criticizes, even mildly, such changes to previously European/white characters.
I don't think Hollywood execs actually care that much, either way. They just cast stars they can boost ticket sales.
How many Japanese actresses are as famous in the States as Scarlett Johansen?
And are associated with a role like Black Widow, an action girl/spy?
It was an obvious pick, assuming she was available and within budget.
Since the early and mid 70s most studios are corporate run, and therefore you get a lot of test marketed films, or films that are tweaked for audience appeal and a kind of "safety story" that the marketing team knows the audience will like.
Sooo ... there you go.
Sooo ... there you go.
I'm not saying I won't watch it.
I just won't see it in theatre.
It'll come to Netflix at some point.
Alien: Covenant, now...
Dunno, Prometheus is well and truly in the running for 'Most disappointing film from a major Sci-Fi director'. It's right up there with that one with the giant smurfs.
I'm not sure I will bother watching Alien: Covenant at the movies either.
GITS and GITS:SAC were pretty good. GITS:Innocence was a bit naff. I haven't seen GITS:Arise.
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Condottiere
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I look forward to the next installment, Avatars, when some giant smurfs discover a crashed alien ship.
Aliens vs. Smurfs?
On a related note, best review of Prometheus ever ...
http://www.digitaldigging.net/prometheus-an-archaeological-perspective/
ShapeShifter
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This. I've loved Ridley Scott's work for 35 years. I was looking forward to seeing it in the theatre -- and it would have been the first time in an actual theatre for me since The Matrix, but the reviews kept me from going at the last minute. I caved and bought the DVD, and still regretted it.
Basically they gave us lush, gorgeous visuals and a cool setting draped over the most execrable, infuriatingly illogical, inconsistent writing in genre history. Hell, Robot Monster made more sense!
I caught the latter part of Prometheus on cable/pay TV.
It looked really cool.
But I have heard from multiple people that it didn't quite gel, and could have used more exposition and development of background. Some of the connective tissue seemed to be missing.
I hope we'll get a director's cut at some point.
It looked really cool.
But I have heard from multiple people that it didn't quite gel, and could have used more exposition and development of background. Some of the connective tissue seemed to be missing.
I hope we'll get a director's cut at some point.
